Posted on 08/02/2008 11:40:34 PM PDT by Libloather
An oil guy was saying he thought that oil is abiotic & produced deeply in intense heat & pressure areas where friction & pressure break down carbon elements & turn it into gas, and it works it’s way up, cools and congeals and is OIL.
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Quite likely ,, also you cannot deny that the formation of the galaxy which included methane clouds covering untold numbers of cubic light years is at least part of our current pool of oil ,,, ethane oceans on Titan ?? YES
ethane/methane/heptane ... it’s all good http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/406859.stm
The Tooth Fairy keeps evolving, too. And Satan Claws - excuse me - Santa Claus changed from a drab looking Nicholas to a bright red, fur trimmed hero. I think we’re all entertained by these very creative stories.
Well put. Thank you.
Not in any of the areas of this world I have been to.
It would be quite interesting to send a Martian lander type device to Saturn's moon Titan to sample the "fossil fuel" in the lakes there to determine the Dinosaur DNA.
seems a lot of people can’t think outside of the box!
Just who started this ‘fossil’ fuel rumor in the first place?
You see it started like this when the first mother ship arrived it sent the smaller UFO’s to plant oil seeds and thst is how it all started.
The core is estimated (no one KNOWS that either) to be very hot, however, the transitional area from surface to hot core is receptive to other processes.
For a fuller explanation of renewable oil not based on fossil fuels theory, consult:
The Deep Hot Biosphere by Thomas Gold
http://www.amazon.com/Deep-Hot-Biosphere-Thomas-Gold/dp/0387985468/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217772072&sr=1-2
Nobody who is educated at all thinks that oil comes from dinosaurs, much less their poop.
Nor do they think that oil is magically created from the core of the earth. Natural gas? Sure, the methane molecule can be formed from a variety of sources, some biological, and others abiotic.
But natural gas is not oil and there’s no known mechanism that would convert it to oil.
As a matter of fact, there are all kinds and grades of oil which further indicates that it has a distinctive source, not some generic abiotic origin. It’s quite local.
None of this has anything to do with dinosaurs, which was what the article was about.
Please cite a scientific reference that claims fossil fuel comes from dinosaur poop.
To answer the question posed by the title of this thread, fossil fuels are associated with fossil microorganisms. Ask anyone who searches for oil.
We could. Use the new MIT catalyst process to make hydrogen from water. Mix with old newspapers and you get hydrocarbons. Takes some form of energy. Nuke would work fine.
Many people think that oil companies have no clue as to where oil comes from.
In fact, they do, and it’s critical to finding the oil, and they spend a lot of money identifying it. In the most simplistic terms, you need a source rock. That most likely is a shale which was composed of silt and organic material deposited in a marine environment.
Then, you need a rock layer above it that is porous. Oil wants to seep to the surface because of the pressures within the earth. A sandstone above the shale is ideal because it has microscopic holes within it that can be filled with oil seeping up from the shale below.
But you need something to prevent that oil from moving up from the sandstone toward the surface. Ideally, that would be another shale, which is too dense to allow further migration of the oil.
You have your oil, trapped in a stone that didn’t create it, sealed by another one on top of it. Your classic oil reservoir.
There are many other ways that oil can be trapped involving such things as porosity and permeability of the subsurface rock and fault lines which shove rock formations formed at different times next to each other.
But it doesn’t change the fact that oil is not formed by the decaying carcasses of animals, except at the fossil microorganism level. It comes from organic debris, primarily plankton, although it could have some fish poop in it.
It’s whatever would settle on the sea floor from an organic source and slowly become buried. Rising and falling seas would overlay those deposits with what was the ancient beach creating the sandstone layer. And the process was repeated dozens of times over the eons.
It’s complicated, yet it’s very simple. There is no mystery about it.
I was just curious why some FReepers seem obsessed with poop. Most people get over that by age three.
You may missed the reference. Again, some goofball on RAT radio made that comment and presented it as fact - as if everyone was supposed to hear it and absorb it as truth.
Left-wing radio talk shows are pretty much worthless (just who wants to listen to hours of complaining anyway?) but it is entertaining.
Does Pelosi know about this?
How is your “theory” that the planet manufactures oil differ in quality from the poop theory? Why is oil always found associated with fossil plants?
Thomas Gold, who thankfully is no longer living on the planet, first asserted that oil was somehow constantly being formed within the earth’s core and seeping to the surface.
Many here have seized on that harebrained idea ever since this forum was formed. It was nonsense then and it’s nonsense now.
The utter absurdity of this claim is shown by the fact that you can drill a dry hole, and most exploratory wells are dry. If this idea had any merit whatsoever, a dry hole would be impossible except for mechanical difficulty.
>>How did dinosaurs get at the bottom of the North Sea?
>They sunk.
Present ocean bottom observation does not support your response. The bottom of 90% of the ocean is devoid of any organic debris because it is eaten by other ocean dwelling creatures on the way down and at the bottom, so that by time it settles on the bottom only bones remain. There is NO WAY to form oil from bones.
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