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Drilling Hits an Active Magma Chamber In Hawaii [good news for science]
Slashdot ^ | 12/17/2008 | timothy

Posted on 12/17/2008 8:36:40 PM PST by Clint Williams

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To: dr_lew
"Truer than you know"

I assume you were referring to my "what do I know about science" quip. Yep, I'm a lowly computer scientist with a 4.0/4.0 in my master degree.

41 posted on 12/18/2008 11:40:27 AM PST by uncommonsense
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To: bert

I appreciate the uncertain benefits of observing new phenomenons, but I was hoping someone could shed light on why this is exciting. How may it benefit our understanding of our world? Could we gain insight into predicting volcanic eruptions on land and under the sea? Could we improve our seismic models to help predict earth quakes, find untapped energy sources...? So far, replies to me seem more interested in correcting my statement about magma cooling vs drying instead of speculating on how this discovery could benefit our knowledge of earth.


42 posted on 12/18/2008 12:06:44 PM PST by uncommonsense
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I hear they have their own school.


43 posted on 12/18/2008 12:21:38 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: uncommonsense
I assume you were referring to my "what do I know about science" quip.

Yes, but I was also referring to your use of the term "drying", which makes your quip more true than you apparently realized. ( See post 38 ) That's pretty horrible, even for a lowly computer scientist. That's Jaywalking material!

44 posted on 12/18/2008 3:37:34 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I always thought it would be cool to make a mold, capture some hot lava, dump it in the mold, and presto - sculpture.

Haven’t work out the details yet, though.


45 posted on 12/18/2008 3:47:03 PM PST by patton (Vista malware delende est - Norton Antivirus)
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To: uncommonsense
I stand corrected - it looses temperature. Why is that interesting?

In the magma chamber, the lava has gases disolved in it. In a lava flow coming out of an eruption, the gases have already escaped into the atmosphere by the time that scientists get close enough to study the lava (like cola that's gone flat).

Studying the lava in the magma chamber, they can see how it is before the eruption, and perhaps get some insight on how eruptions are triggered.

46 posted on 12/18/2008 3:57:00 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (We used to institutionalize the insane. Now we elect them.)
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To: uncommonsense
For more details on why scientists are interested in the gases that magma contains, see Volcanic "Fizz" That Triggers Explosive Eruptions Starts Deep:
The fizzy gases that cause some volcanoes to blow their tops—like champagne bubbles popping a cork—appear to originate deep beneath the surface, a new study suggests.

Scientists have long known that during an eruption, gases fizz out of magma as the molten rock rises to the surface.

But in some types of magma, small bubbles coalesce into larger, gaseous "slugs" that rise upward, causing fiery bursts when they reach the surface.


47 posted on 12/18/2008 4:07:36 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (We used to institutionalize the insane. Now we elect them.)
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To: MovementConservative
Who knew there were people out their who get excited about watching rocks solidify.

Better than watching paint dry.

48 posted on 12/18/2008 4:09:37 PM PST by GOPJ (Gun Control-:- like trying to control stray dogs by neutering veterinarians.- G. Jonas)
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To: Clint Williams

I wanted to see that thing do a gusher. Is that so wrong?


49 posted on 12/18/2008 4:11:17 PM PST by RichInOC (Obama/Biden '08: "We Are Not Ruled By Murderers, But Only--By Their Friends."--Rudyard Kipling)
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To: PapaBear3625
"Studying the lava in the magma chamber, they can see how it is before the eruption, and perhaps get some insight on how eruptions are triggered."

OK, that makes sense. Seeing what Mt. St. Helen wrought when she blew her top, I can appreciate better insight (24 megatons thermal energy produced and destroyed / damaged 4 billion board feet of lumber). As I understand, her sister down the road, Mount Rainier, is next.

50 posted on 12/18/2008 9:08:34 PM PST by uncommonsense
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51 posted on 12/18/2008 9:31:19 PM PST by cogitator
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To: Clint Williams; neverdem; PGalt

Well, since the place didn’t explode, maybe this will give us a clue about how to drill enough holes to decompress the monster Yellowstone magma chamber which is due to blow some time between now and 50,000 years from now, wiping out all human civilization.


52 posted on 12/18/2008 10:28:41 PM PST by FreeKeys (eco-freaks make great bio-fuel)
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