NASA: Ionosphere not where it should be

http://www.spacedaily.com/ ^ | Dec 17, 2008 | Staff Writers, Washington (UPI)

[tricky_k_1972]

Actually this is right in line with the reports of low sunspot activity, and if the temperatures follow like they have in the past we could be heading for another ice age which would refute Gore.

This discovery does not back up the Global Warming nuts, it doesn't necessarily support either side yet, but it does point more and more towards Global cooling.

[Mobile Vulgus]

Like NASA would know? We need to eliminate this money wasting agency.

[Myrddin]

Aside from about 6 sunspots in Nov 2008, the sun has been devoid of sun spots for all of 2008. Normal is around 100 spots each month. The site at http://www.solarcycle24.com tracks the band openings related to sun spot activity. The bands have been closed all year. I've left my ham rigs in the "off" condition all year.

It remains to be seen if we are approaching another ice age. It turns out that ice ages (big ones) occur every 11,500 years based on the precession of equinoxes. A recent measurement puts the last ice age start at 11,711 years. Assuming that's a good measurement, we're overdue for a plunge back into an ice age. The most critical impact is food production.

[capt. norm]

Obviously, we're breathing up all the low atmosphere. Pretty soon, there will be no atmosphere left. We need an interntional day of holding one's breath. At least, let's start it in California.

Or....for those of us who have watched "Space Balls", there is another answer:

"Now that we have Obama in power, by comparison, nobody will ever notice other things that REALLY SUCK!"

By the way, you know I always have coffee with my radar...."

[blueplum]

hmmm...scientists play with the HAARP, with the goal of creating and then studying an intentional runaway phenomenon in the ionosphere and we get....a deflated ionosphere...way to go, HAARP players! now fix it!

[Zeppo]

DXing must’ve really sucked during the Maunder Minimum, huh...

[Tammy8]

I am betting on cooling- the reason I am betting on cooling is because the dims are nearly always wrong; it is usually a safe bet to go with the opposite of what they say.

[The Duke]

Yeah ... this from the “global warming” crowd. I’ll believe the ionosphere is in trouble AFTER I see hotels here in Florida any close to the water than they were 50 years ago.

[LibWhacker]

As long as the troposphere is where it should be, we're in like Flynn. Otherwise, I'm suin' somebody!

[Captain Beyond]

bump for later read

[antonia]

	Hunters in the Snow by the Flemish painter Pieter Bruegel the Elder (1525–1569). Completed in February 1565, during the first of the many bitter winters of the Little Ice Age. Bruegel painted at least seven such snow scenes, including biblical themes such as Adoration of the Magi (in a snowstorm) and the Census at Bethlehem, and the genre was adopted by other painters of the period. Despite the cold, malaria persisted in northern Europe until the second half of the 20th century. The World Health Organization declared Holland free of the disease in 1970. Reproduced courtesy of the Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna.

[shibumi]

"I wonder how long before one of those idiot ‘warmers’ say this is somehow the fault of human activity."

Like, you know, it's because of cancer, man. Cuz like so many people got cancer they all started wearing that SPF stuff on their skin at the beach, you know - and like it reflects the sunrays back into space and like the sun, you know, started thinking that we didn't want the rays no more, so, you know, it like stopped making them and like with no rays, man, there's no ions, man and if there's no ions the there's no sphere to put them in, you know, and so like the ionosphere goes away.....

[anymouse]

Well someone had to do it. ;)

[Eagle50AE]

Here’s a link I use.

http://dx.qsl.net/propagation/

Keep your Boatanchors ready.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks tricky_k_1972 and FrogMom.

Boundary Between Earth’s Upper Atmosphere And Space
Has Moved To Extraordinarily Low Altitudes...
Science Daily | Dec. 16, 2008 | Unknown
Posted on 12/16/2008 1:20:29 PM PST by decimon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2149786/posts

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks tricky_k_1972 and FrogMom.

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[zeugma]

Those altitudes, said NASA, were extraordinarily low compared with the more typical values of 400 miles during the nighttime and 600 miles during the day.

"Should be" based on what? Perhaps if they can provide satellite data of altitudes over the bast millenia, perhaps we can talk about it. What? They don't have it? Well, then perhaps they should just freaking admit what they don't know and stop being so damned alarmist.

[Erik Latranyi]

We’re toast.

Actually, we're ice.

[Western Phil]

“DXing must’ve really sucked during the Maunder Minimum, huh...”

You’re right. There is no record of any successful DXing during that time period.

[tricky_k_1972]

Oh thats just low, and I can’t believe nobody called you on it.