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Subprime Mortgages: 48% Late or Foreclosed
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Posted on 03/05/2009 10:22:59 PM PST by Chet 99

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To: djf

This is utterly disgusting. Reward the people who made the bad choices and tax the hell out of the people who were a little more prudent to pay for it.


My brother-in-law & sister are LIVID, that with their 790 & 750 credit scores, they STILL couldn’t get the 3% deal my deadbeat brother was offered (463 FICO).

The Revolution is coming...


21 posted on 03/05/2009 11:13:18 PM PST by Dasaji (On a beach somewhere in my head...)
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To: TruthWillWin

Good roster of criminals NO?
I feel for those folks that have lost their jobs due to crap obama economy and subsequently are pushed on house payments. Lesson to them and all of us is to save emergency funds for these situations.
I have no feelings whatsoever for the turds that went for houses they didn’t have the wherewithall to consider. Hell with ‘em - those folks need tents - not houses.


22 posted on 03/05/2009 11:23:20 PM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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23 posted on 03/05/2009 11:23:29 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Chet 99

Liars loans (alt-a and subprime) were the primary tools housing gamblers with little to no collateral used to obtain financing to go speculate on real estate.
Big shocker that most are in foreclosure now that the market has turned against them and these morons have no income to pay the mortgages.


24 posted on 03/06/2009 1:00:10 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (Trust unto God and He shall direct your path)
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To: 1010RD

These were mostly housing gamblers looking to flip for a profit. Doesn’t matter if their loans are shifted to 30 year fixed. They still don’t have the income to pay the mortgages because that was never the plan.
The only ones I feel for are those who recently lost their jobs and thats why they can’t pay.
But the majority of those involved in Alt-A and Option-ARM loans were using them to either buy more house than they could afford or refinanced into them to draw the fake equity out of their homes so they could go buy crap.
Alt-A and Option-ARMS were extremely popular in the house flipping ground zeros like LA, SD, Las Vegas, Pheonix, and Miami.


25 posted on 03/06/2009 1:11:44 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (Trust unto God and He shall direct your path)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Anyone with half a brain saw this coming. The greedy and the stupid are getting their comeuppance.


26 posted on 03/06/2009 1:35:40 AM PST by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99

I’m curious as to just how many of them really are thanks to the CRA - the handiwork of Carter, Clinton, Obama, Frank and Rangel.


27 posted on 03/06/2009 1:47:01 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Chet 99

Great example of how figures lie and liars figure.

So, 48% of sub prime mortgages are either late or in foreclosure? Well, since sub prime makes up about 6% of ALL mortgages, 48% of THOSE sub prime loans would equal less then 3% of ALL mortgages. Further that “less then 3%” of all mortgages in question is for BOTH those late AND those in foreclosure. If we assume even 50% of the less then 3% are actually in default, that still means that less then 1.5% of ALL mortgage loans are in foreclosure.

Of course there are other “non” sub prime loans that may be in trouble but the fact the story does not even bother to mention them indicates those numbers are inconsequential.


28 posted on 03/06/2009 2:55:25 AM PST by 101voodoo (The only stimulus going on here is Congress stimulating themselves.)
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To: 101voodoo
Of course there are other “non” sub prime loans that may be in trouble but the fact the story does not even bother to mention them indicates those numbers are inconsequential.

From the article: "A record 5.4 million American homeowners with a mortgage of any kind, or nearly 12 percent, were at least one month late or in foreclosure at the end of last year"

Add a few million people that are barely making their payments and that adds up to substancial numbers. Those are people that aren't going to be buying cars or other expensive items.

29 posted on 03/06/2009 4:20:14 AM PST by EVO X
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To: djf
This is utterly disgusting. Reward the people who made the bad choices and tax the hell out of the people who were a little more prudent to pay for it.

Yes, but THEY voted for O and YOU didn't. That is the big difference.

30 posted on 03/06/2009 4:24:32 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

I feel sorriest for those who lost their job, due to the government meddling in the market. It is just going to get worse for them.

I don’t see how they’ll recover, at least over the next five years. The unemployed, not the chronically, but the normal unemployed make up a different and changing group over the course of months. Now, they are going to become entrenched.

You lose your home, your credit is shot - making renting hard, their best bet is starting their own home based business after moving in with friends/family, but there are so many restrictions on housing. Maybe local governments will overlook it?


31 posted on 03/06/2009 5:38:05 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: SAJ

I don’t know if you are joking, but indentured servitude was a very successful program for the US. Lots of skills gained and people were able to start fresh at the end of their terms. Made travel to the New World possible for the created rabble of Europe.

Debtor’s prison, on the other hand, never worked and could not. Only an aristocratic society could imagine it would.


32 posted on 03/06/2009 5:41:12 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: antceecee

“Stealth reparations....”

I don’t think race has a lot to do with who has a subprime mortgage.

People who were unqualified to hold a normal mortgage, have all kinds of skin colors.


33 posted on 03/06/2009 5:41:22 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I agree with Rick..)
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To: Chet 99

The valuations of these homes was a ponzi scheme and the values have collapsed because, rightly, NOBODY believes these homes are worth what they say.

These homes need to be valued at REAL value.

whether the current occupant stays or goes is a seperate question AFTER the ponzi value is cleaned off.


34 posted on 03/06/2009 5:46:44 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Black Birch
Those figures are meaningless without context.

From the article: "A record 5.4 million American homeowners with a mortgage of any kind, or nearly 12 percent, were at least one month late or in foreclosure at the end of last year"

How many where "at least one month late or in foreclosure" before the current problems became known? And just what is the break down between those who are in foreclosure and those who are late?

The "12%" figure includes ALL mortgages including sub prime and alt-A. But like I said, without knowing the actual breakdown of these numbers they are totally meaningless. Give me any set of numbers on any situation and I can write a story showing the situation regarding those numbers to be good or bad.

Like I said before, figures lie and liars figure.

35 posted on 03/06/2009 6:11:50 AM PST by 101voodoo (The only stimulus going on here is Congress stimulating themselves.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I don’t think Obama’s concept of reparations is tied to race... it’s tied to class and ideology.
He’s keeping his promise to his ACORN troops.


36 posted on 03/06/2009 7:24:35 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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