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Sunspots and global cooling: Clear connection?
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| July 5, 2009
| Steve LaNore
Posted on 07/05/2009 4:34:03 PM PDT by neverdem
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posted on
07/05/2009 4:34:04 PM PDT
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neverdem
To: steelyourfaith; SunkenCiv
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posted on
07/05/2009 4:37:31 PM PDT
by
rdl6989
To: neverdem
I don't know, but I damn sure know that the lack of sunspots is hampering DX worldwide. CQ, CQ, CQ 6 meters....
/johnny
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posted on
07/05/2009 4:40:26 PM PDT
by
JRandomFreeper
(God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
To: neverdem
The remarkable William (Wilhelm) Herschel was the first to notice a correlation between sunspot number and wheat prices. He used wheat prices as a surrogate for solar output.
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posted on
07/05/2009 4:42:20 PM PDT
by
Lonesome in Massachussets
(AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
To: neverdem
"The year 2008 saw the sun with its lowest number of sunspots for any year in a century. This only fueled the speculation of an impending global cooling scenario." Must be all of the CO2 we're spewing, good thing the Democrat's are going to turn thing around with the Cap & Trade bill. /s (if required)
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posted on
07/05/2009 4:42:36 PM PDT
by
WHBates
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To: neverdem
Only since the last Ice Age or two or three...
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posted on
07/05/2009 4:56:48 PM PDT
by
Steamburg
( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
To: Lonesome in Massachussets
thats funny
as if the price of wheat could have any effect on the sun.
why not the price of sunflower seeds, that at least makes some sense
To: beebuster2000
I assume you’re joking.
Herschel used wheat prices because there were long reliable records.
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posted on
07/05/2009 5:25:28 PM PDT
by
Lonesome in Massachussets
(AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
To: neverdem
It may be a moot point anyway: the solar trend has ramped markedly upward since May 2009 with more and more sunspots erupting on the solar sphere. Moot point ? Sunspots show up for two days and now the past 2 years of inactivity can just be ignored because there are a moot point ? Are you leftist really this stupid ? We are going to have one of our worse winters in the Northern Hemisphere most of us have ever experienced. Solar activity needs to increase dramatically and even then it will be too late for this winter.
To: neverdem
More and more Sunspots have not been popping up. We just had the first one everybody would agree really is a Sunspot TODAY and this is July.
The other items were just very tiny magnetic storms ~ NASA couldn't even determine if they wer eassociated with Solarcycle 23 or Solarcycle 24.
Astronomers and Sunspot fans have all gotten into referring into the imaginary NASA Sunspots as "the official Sunspots".
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posted on
07/05/2009 5:57:10 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: Lonesome in Massachussets
There were pretty clear records way back into Roman times, and intermittent records that would take you right back to Ancient Sumer.
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posted on
07/05/2009 5:58:20 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: muawiyah
But not of sunspots, unfortunately. Sunspot records only go back 400 years.
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posted on
07/05/2009 6:00:13 PM PDT
by
Lonesome in Massachussets
(AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
To: Lonesome in Massachussets
sunflower records are even longer
To: beebuster2000
Herschel’s mistake, I suppose.
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posted on
07/05/2009 6:15:08 PM PDT
by
Lonesome in Massachussets
(AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Western telescopic records started about 1610, but the Eastern astronomers/astrologers recorded them going back to 800BC. They were often mistaken for planets or omens.
I'd like to see a correlation of the Chinese/Korean sunspot records to the C-14 tree ring data, and the ice core data as well.
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posted on
07/05/2009 10:17:02 PM PDT
by
PeaceBeWithYou
(De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
To: rdl6989; Little Bill; IrishCatholic; Normandy; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; ...
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posted on
07/06/2009 10:49:45 AM PDT
by
steelyourfaith
("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" - Lady Thatcher)
To: rdl6989; Swordmaker; Fred Nerks; 75thOVI; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; ...
Thanks rdl6989 (and neverdem).
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posted on
07/06/2009 2:04:10 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv
Is there some place on the net or on FR with a daily report on sunspots?
To: wendy1946
NOAA maintains the
Today's Space Weather page.
It includes a lot of useful information besides sunspot activity.
The relevant daily information for today is found here.
Of direct interest are the F10.7 cm solar flux data, which is a proxy measurement of the solar UV output; and also the Geomagnetic A indices, which describes the rate at which charged solar particles are captured by the Earth's magnetic field.
FWIW, these values are generally used for modeling the density of the upper atmosphere, which is in turn used for satellite drag modelilng, which in turn is used as part of orbit prediction.
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posted on
07/21/2009 10:25:16 AM PDT
by
r9etb
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