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Longer term Solar Minimum could lead to Little Ice Age
Ice Age Now ^ | August 15, 2009 | Robert W. Felix

Posted on 08/20/2009 11:29:36 PM PDT by ReadTheLaw

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To: ActrFshr

Interesting that ice caps on Mars grow and contract where no man (or carbon emission) has gone before. You see that big bright ball in the sky? That furnace is not constant and we are at its mercy.


21 posted on 08/21/2009 12:21:31 AM PDT by ReadTheLaw (by Frederic Bastiat)
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22 posted on 08/21/2009 12:39:04 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: ReadTheLaw

Gore’s fault


23 posted on 08/21/2009 1:00:07 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Obama plans to fix America like he fixed his dog)
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To: allmost

You are absolutely correct. Even with a mini ice age, we would be praying for global warming.


24 posted on 08/21/2009 1:03:54 AM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: Justa
Ah, yes, but... If you study the cycles over the last few million years, we are overdue to drop into a real period of glaciation. Not a "Snowball Earth", but, then again, the last period of normal cold / extensive glaciation nearly killed off humankind.

Our present interglacial period has lasted longer (and been more stable) than any in the last several million years. Interglacials are normally short. It may be that humans have had some effect, in that regard, though also it is of note that temperatures in the current interglacial have NOT exceeded the peak of the last interglacial. If we have had an effect, it seems to be mostly a "buffering" effect, and no one can tell me anyone knows if the effect is enough to continue overriding the overall pattern. Similarly, no one really knows how much of a dip might trigger a greater drop.

Shoot, we were supposed to be rained on like crazy, yesterday, much of the day, and we got nary a drop.

25 posted on 08/21/2009 1:29:32 AM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: ReadTheLaw

I remember a Russian Astrophyisist putting up a an open wager of $ 10,000 to any global warming proponent that the earth was going to start cooling soon before it got hotter due to lower output by the sun.

I don’t recall any of the Gorons taking him up on the wager.

Seems as though the scientist was right and in reality, global cooling is a bigger problem than warming was. Of course what will happen is the Gorons will claim man made Co2 as the culprit and spin this to try and impose their will anyway.


26 posted on 08/21/2009 2:14:13 AM PDT by WildWeasel
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To: ReadTheLaw
"A new sudden Ice Age would leave all the world's harbors landlocked with catastrophic economic consequences."

That's funny. My first American ancestor landed on the northeast coast on a tall wooden ship in 1669. He did very well with farming after that.


27 posted on 08/21/2009 2:15:54 AM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: ReadTheLaw
I am sure we would make every effort to bridge over that 50 foot drop as rapidly as possible.

It's the larger 200+ ft. drop that might well cause some problems ~ like relocating most East Coast port facilities up to 100 miles off shore from their present locations.

28 posted on 08/21/2009 2:17:38 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ReadTheLaw

“the Sun will be devoid of sunspots in five years time”

In case nobody is looking the Sun IS devoid of Sunspots and has been for the last 41 days, and there are none predicted any time soon. The “Gore Minimum” is upon us! I hope him and his carbon footprint go bankrupt and never show their face in public again. Pseudo science nitwits!


29 posted on 08/21/2009 2:44:55 AM PDT by flash2368 (Scary Times)
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To: ReadTheLaw
For what it is worth, from today's spaceweather.com:

QUIET SUN: According to NOAA sunspot counts, the longest stretch of spotless suns during the current solar minimum was 52 days in July, August and Sept. of 2008. The current spate of blank suns is putting that record in jeopardy. There have been no sunspots for almost 42 days and there are none in the offing. Deep solar minimum continues.


30 posted on 08/21/2009 2:57:05 AM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: muawiyah

“It’s the larger 200+ ft. drop that might well cause some problems...”

I don’t believe that will happen, of course. But were it to become true, there would be some advantages as well.

Some banned off-shore drilling would no longer be off-shore, fer instance.

And I’d be even farther from the east cost!


31 posted on 08/21/2009 3:58:08 AM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: _Jim

when I was younger, we were warned about global cooling....so this is no surprize to us older folks...


32 posted on 08/21/2009 4:15:43 AM PDT by The Wizard (Democrat Party: a criminal enterprise)
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To: ReadTheLaw
No existing port in the world would be usable.

And, it would be quite "fragrant" near those unusable ports......

33 posted on 08/21/2009 4:49:41 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: The Wizard

I was working/going to school that decade, but I’ve seen copies of Time (or was it ‘Newsweak’) that carried that message ...


34 posted on 08/21/2009 5:34:46 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: ReadTheLaw
From NASA's site:

Solar Cycle 24 is overdue to ramp up. If we don't see significant sunspot activity by New Years, then it looks like we are in a minimum.

35 posted on 08/21/2009 5:43:17 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: allmost
A shrinking and shifting of the temperate zones would lead to mass starvation as well. Humanity has very little to fear from global warming. Global cooling would be catastrophic on all levels.

Global warming would involve more rainfall globally, which would improve agriculture. It would also make vast stretches of Canada and Siberia more temperate, again improving agricultural output.

Global cooling would kill farming in the northern MidWest.

36 posted on 08/21/2009 5:52:23 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: ReadTheLaw

bump for a careful read.


37 posted on 08/21/2009 8:54:04 AM PDT by texmexis best (uencynd no)
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To: PapaBear3625

“From NASA’s site:

Solar Cycle 24 is overdue to ramp up. If we don’t see significant sunspot activity by New Years, then it looks like we are in a minimum.”

Good point


38 posted on 08/21/2009 8:55:12 AM PDT by ReadTheLaw (by Frederic Bastiat)
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To: WildWeasel

“I remember a Russian Astrophyisist putting up a an open wager of $ 10,000 to any global warming proponent that the earth was going to start cooling soon before it got hotter due to lower output by the sun.”

Has he paid up yet?


39 posted on 08/21/2009 8:56:15 AM PDT by ReadTheLaw (by Frederic Bastiat)
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To: texmexis best

“bump for a careful read.”

Ditto


40 posted on 08/21/2009 10:23:59 AM PDT by ReadTheLaw (by Frederic Bastiat)
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