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Tale of Two Creation Films Denied First Amendment Rights on Darwin's Anniversary
ChristianNewsWire ^ | November 25, 2009

Posted on 11/25/2009 7:56:35 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


41 posted on 11/25/2009 9:57:08 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: trumandogz
I was not aware that the First Amendment guaranteed the right of All films to be shown at government facilities and I thought that the U.S. Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, AL was a government facility.

That's the trouble with leftists. When they talk about "rights" they mean "entitlements from the Government"

It's this progressive idea that the purpose of Government is to to give you what you want.

42 posted on 11/26/2009 5:23:57 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, but a comedy to those who think. - Horace Walpole)
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To: count-your-change

Was there different criteria applied to then than to other people who rented facility space?


43 posted on 11/26/2009 5:28:44 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Nice article about the event - but would like more details of what was in the film.


44 posted on 11/26/2009 5:51:55 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: All

Nevermind - reread the original post and have visited the website. (of Mysterious Islands)


45 posted on 11/26/2009 6:00:54 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

No you didn’t answer it, though you made many assertions.

Still misrepresenting, I see.


46 posted on 11/26/2009 6:05:42 AM PST by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Don’t you think you should know the science before speculating on whether the film is good or not?


47 posted on 11/26/2009 6:06:49 AM PST by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: Publius6961

you did say “any”.


48 posted on 11/26/2009 6:07:32 AM PST by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: trumandogz

Is the U.S. Space and Rocket Center a government facility? They have a copyright notice on their web page, which isn’t normally on federal government pages.


49 posted on 11/26/2009 6:24:08 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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Interesting that it is not on any schedule here:U.S. Space & Rocket Center And the web address is not a .gov, for government operated.

Like this : http://www.nasa.gov/home/index.html

And this :http://www.sandia.gov/

And numerous other US government websites.

50 posted on 11/26/2009 6:24:51 AM PST by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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To: Moonman62

The U.S. Space & Rocket Center (USSRC), an agency of the State of Alabama, established the U.S. Space & Rocket Center Foundation in September of 2000. The Foundation was designated as a 501(c)(3) organization by the Internal Revenue Service on March 22, 2002.


51 posted on 11/26/2009 6:30:51 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: GodGunsGuts; betty boop; Alamo-Girl

It strikes me that it is impossible to prove that God created the heavens and the earth and all that is therein. Proving a thing is to remove all doubt.

I can prove that a loaded gun can kill an animal by actually using it to kill any animal. The claim can be tested.

I cannot call God to a particular place & time and have Him demonstrate another creation.

Therefore, the best I can accomplish is to compile the available secondary/tertiary evidence that speaks logically to the claim that God created. That is not to say that such evidence is not very strong.

That is true, also, about any other claim to explain origins.

Whichever way one turns, one is left with compiling evidence that speaks to one’s claim.

And at some level, that involves the faith to continue searching. It is, therefore, a belief system.


52 posted on 11/26/2009 6:45:23 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Moonman62
So it's State supported, not Federal.

The article kind of misrepresents that, doesn't it.

53 posted on 11/26/2009 7:16:33 AM PST by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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To: xzins

You can’t prove evolution either. Both deal with the unobservable, unrepeatable past. They are historical sciences, and historical sciences depend on “multiple competing hypothesis.” And from my stand point, the argument from Creation/ID wins the competition hands down.


54 posted on 11/26/2009 7:40:27 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Pistolshot

Yes. I also wonder how much they get in tax dollars, since they seem to be supported by a nonprofit foundation.


55 posted on 11/26/2009 7:45:37 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: donmeaker

Is this thread about the science, or the right of the creation group to show the film? You were there one who wanted to argue the science of the film.


56 posted on 11/26/2009 7:50:33 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
You can’t prove evolution either. Both deal with the unobservable, unrepeatable past. They are historical sciences, and historical sciences depend on “multiple competing hypothesis.” And from my stand point, the argument from Creation/ID wins the competition hands down.

A film can present a "competing hypothesis", and still be "religious propaganda". The are not mutually exclusive.

57 posted on 11/26/2009 7:50:37 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Is this thread about the science, or the right of the creation group to show the film?

Indeed. Does the State of Alabama have the right to set and enforce standards for what it considers appropriate material to be shown at that venue, or does the film producer have the right to force them to let him show that film regardless of whether it meets those standards.

58 posted on 11/26/2009 7:56:01 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
A film can present a "competing hypothesis", and still be "religious propaganda". The are not mutually exclusive.>/>

True, Evo's have been doing so ever since they could make movies.

59 posted on 11/26/2009 7:58:44 AM PST by celmak
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To: celmak
Evo's have been doing so ever since they could make movies.

Is that going to be the argument for establishing the First Amendment violation? You're going to sue the State of Alabama for not finding the theory of evolution to be religious propaganda?

60 posted on 11/26/2009 8:10:33 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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