Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 01/06/2010 10:47:02 PM PST by neverdem
Climate changes. It always does, always will.
But there is no way these poltroons can use that argument to logically conclude humans change climate.
These people are not practicing science - they are practing a weird new religious cult called “Political Correctness”.
Interesting
Oh, so I take it Dr.Jones isn’t a Darwinist? lol
Anyone who still thinks Global Warming is real is insane. It is setting a record cold since 1898 in Tampa tonite. Global Warming is a Communist Scheme.
thanks for posting, NOW THAT’S SCIENCE!
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Thanks for the post
For other scientific observations refuting MMGCW (man made global climate warming) checkout
http://www.theusmat.com/
It’s more than that they want to believe that humans can control climate because they have no faith in God.
In charge of watching over the direction of the earth's axis.
They used to be alive.
More importantly, the most critical trees in the collection were alive as late as 1850 (before the invention of a standardized thermometer) and lived on the tops or sides of nearby hills along the Lena river.
The tops of those hills present a kind of prevailing microclimate for hilltops and hillsides in that area. It is today a very harsh microclimate and NO TREES OF THAT KIND live on those hillsides or the tops of those hills now.
They just don't. The violent storms that ripped these trees out and tossed them in the valleys below were so nasty they even removed the soil.
There are also signs that the hillsides and hilltops are COLDER now than they were 160 years ago!
Yes, it's clearly colder in that area than it was when the trees were alive.
He's basically doing ... Alchemy, and trying to fool the sheeple into believing he's discovered The Philosopher's Stone and can turn lead into gold!.
In English -- utter 'Bullcarp'.
That’s true.
My point is that the climate has fluctuated over the eons getting warmer and colder and it did it without the intervention of any human agency and it is doing it still.
Yet the global warming nuts continue to infer this is due to human activities - which is nonesense.
Its not possible to take a window of time only about a century or so in duration and extrapolate the observed fluctations within that time frame to indicate human agency is responsible for it.
But liberals never let facts get in the way of preconceived politically correct opinions.
Thanks for the ping!
Right you are! The trees are not fossilized:
None of them were alive as late as 160 years ago. What that meant was that Mann and his cronies had to come up with yet "other" trees to use to gin up "proxy data" for temperatures from 1850 to about 1998. So, they used "other" trees that'd grown in protected river valleys. The result was the EARLY data has to do with trees growing exposed to Siberian wind, the stuff from 1850 to 1960/1998 from trees growing in sheltered groves, and data from 1960/1998 to present (whatever present he wanted I suppose) "actual data" from "somewhere" "more or less" "probably".
You trick those samples enough, and pick this tree rather than another, and next thing you know you have a hockey stick graph!
The way Mann and his cronies selected the data means that they did so with malice aforethought ~ which means fraud when it comes to the government contracts they justified ~ which means that ol'boy ain't gonna' leave prison for a darned long time!
BTW, the reason no trees of that size grow along the Kolmya river any longer is quite simple ~ IT GOT COLDER, the storms got stronger, the trees and the dirt they grew in was washed right off the sides of the hills, and new trees of the same type cannot thrive there.
I certainly HOPE SO!
thanks, found it.
Abstract
A 538-yr tree-ring chronology and reconstruction of June temperatures were developed from living and dead Larix dahurica trees. The samples were obtained near the lower Lena River in northern Siberia. Dendrochronological techniques were used to estimate the ages of establishment and mortality of Larix dahurica on the presently treeless uplands and to determine the establishment dates of living trees in the lowlands. The 20th century may have experienced the greatest prolonged period of high June temperatures over the past 538 yr. In contrast the greatest prolonged period of cold appears to have occurred during the first half of the 19th century. It was during the 19th century that the uplands lost much of their tree and soil cover. Recruitment of trees occurred in the lowlands during the 20th century, but trees have not been able to recolonize the uplands, possibly due to the lack of suitable soil.
http://www.jstor.org/pss/1552005
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