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Scientists and Weathercasters at Odds on Warming
New York Times ^ | March 29, 2010 | Leslie Kaufman

Posted on 03/29/2010 3:04:58 PM PDT by reaganaut1

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The people who immerse themselves in real-time weather data (not historical reconstuctions) every day are skeptical of global warming.
1 posted on 03/29/2010 3:04:58 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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global warming ping


2 posted on 03/29/2010 3:05:31 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1; Amagi; Beowulf; Tunehead54; Clive; Fractal Trader; tubebender; marvlus; ...
Thanx !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 03/29/2010 3:06:18 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (Warmists as "traffic light" apocalyptics: "Greens too yellow to admit they're really Reds."-Monckton)
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“Climatologists, who study weather patterns over time, almost universally endorse the view that the earth is warming and that humans have contributed to climate change.”

That is pure BS and destroys his main argument.


4 posted on 03/29/2010 3:16:48 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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I’m surprised that the NYT can calmly discuss the debate without getting hysterical about jailing the ‘deniers’.


5 posted on 03/29/2010 3:22:50 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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” ... Climatologists, who study weather patterns over time, almost universally endorse the view that the earth is warming and that humans have contributed to climate change. Meteorologists, who predict short-term weather patterns, are not so sure. .. “
Poppycock - the difference is between who is taking money via grants and subsidizing career advancement, and who is a regular working guy with a salary! IMHO


6 posted on 03/29/2010 3:23:44 PM PDT by J Edgar
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The split between climate scientists and meteorologists is gaining attention in political and academic circles because polls show that public skepticism about global warming is increasing, and weather forecasters — especially television forecasters — dominate communications channels to the public”

Man that must be frustrating as all get out to the warming cheerleaders. It seems that bad science and the print media ain’t what it used to be. And now we’ve got those pesky meteorologists to deal with. How’s a scammer gonna catch a break?


7 posted on 03/29/2010 3:26:28 PM PDT by bereanway (Sarah get your gun)
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Bastardi has been right on the money for years now.


8 posted on 03/29/2010 3:31:06 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER ( EPA will rule your life)
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who uses the weatherman any more? it is straight to the NOAA site where THEY get the same information.

The tv stations should just bring back the bikini weather girl in the clear raincoat and regain their credibility (/s)


9 posted on 03/29/2010 3:31:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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The medieval warming period with grape arbors and farms in GREENLAND says it all.

The retreating glaciers disclose homesteads, tilled fields etc. It was MUCH warmer then and THE WORLD DID NOT END.

IPSO FACTO BINGO! ! ! !

(check please)

10 posted on 03/29/2010 3:39:16 PM PDT by Huebolt (Some people are born to be slaves. They register as democrats.)
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Why is climatology a “science” and meteorology not? Meteorology makes predictions that are confirmed or falsified. Climatology makes predictions that are forgotten or obsolete before they can be verified. Meteorology is empirical, but climatology is speculative.

Another case of trying to win the word game by calling the ones that the authors agree with scientists but denying that description to the ones that the authors disagree with.


11 posted on 03/29/2010 4:39:25 PM PDT by djpg
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"Climatology makes predictions that are forgotten or obsolete before they can be verified."

I talked with some of these students at Penn State.
We were discussing their future jobs. One gal said, "it's the only profession where you can be wrong 50% of the time and not lose your job".

12 posted on 03/29/2010 4:45:48 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Impeach Obama)
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Why is climatology a “science” and meteorology not? Meteorology makes predictions that are confirmed or falsified. Climatology makes predictions that are forgotten or obsolete before they can be verified. Meteorology is empirical, but climatology is speculative.

Real meteorologists have degrees in meteorology and had to take major science and mathematics in college. I had to take Calculus and Calc-based Physics as well as Chemistry, Geology, Biology to get mine.

My University changed their curriculum, dropped Meteorology, and now give out Climatology degrees that do not make a person take any of those science and math classes.

As I look at the new course syllabus I see a bunch of politically correct garbage classes made to look like science but very few classes that have any substance or give a good grounding in science, math and logic.

13 posted on 03/29/2010 5:18:27 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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They are not grant recipients....their money comes from other sources.
14 posted on 03/29/2010 5:26:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: BOBTHENAILER

WUWT has an article on him talking about something funny with the artic heating up according to the Hansen group...will look for it later.


15 posted on 03/29/2010 5:28:27 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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WUWT has an article on him talking about something funny with the artic heating up according to the Hansen group...will look for it later.


16 posted on 03/29/2010 5:28:27 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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They are not grant recipients....their money comes from other sources.
17 posted on 03/29/2010 5:30:03 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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...pitting environmentalists against industry and coal-state Democrats against coastal liberals.

18 posted on 03/29/2010 5:49:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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More than a quarter of the weathercasters in the survey agreed with the statement, "Global warming is a scam," the researchers found.
 
Catastrophism
 
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19 posted on 03/29/2010 5:52:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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Whoops! And thanks, Ernest_at_the_Beach!


20 posted on 03/29/2010 5:52:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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