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High Fructose Corn Syrup Linked to Liver Scarring
Duke Medicine News and Communications ^ | Mar. 18, 2010 | NA

Posted on 04/21/2010 2:21:20 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: Paradox
What is wrong with people? Sugar is nearly as "bad" as HFCS, in that it contains a almost as much Fructose as HFCS. Sugar should be called FairlyHFCaneS.

The stuff in soft drinks is HFCS-55, 55 percent fructose and 42 percent glucose. There's 31 percent more fructose than glucose. When fructose is metabolized it needs one less enzyme than glucose to make glycerol, which happens to make up the spine of triglycerides when glycerol combines with free fatty acids.

41 posted on 04/21/2010 3:32:24 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
But other scientists have shown that liver scarring is actually good for you. So Drink Up, America! This message is brought to you by Nebraska Corn Farmers for Ben Nelson, the same fine folks who help bring you Energy Independence by forcing lots of gasket-destroying Ethanol into every fill-up.

BTTT!

42 posted on 04/21/2010 3:35:25 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: reagan4palin
The high dose rats in the study got so fat their hearts exploded.

The scene from Monty Python's "Meaning of Life" immediately came to mind.

43 posted on 04/21/2010 3:35:58 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: firebrand
Soon all you’ll be able to buy at the supermarket is an empty box.

And you'll be d@mn glad to get it for the fiber content, right comrade?

44 posted on 04/21/2010 3:37:19 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: mlocher
The scene from Monty Python's "Meaning of Life" immediately came to mind.

"It's only 'wafer thin.'"

45 posted on 04/21/2010 3:38:32 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: neverdem

“correlated”

You’ll notice this word pop up a lot, and I might remind everyone that it’s a fairly well-established truth that correlation is not causation, though, obviously, that’s what they want you to think. Hence the sensationalistic headlines. If your study doesn’t produce sensationalistic headlines, the people who fund you might start asking, “What do we pay him for, anyway?”

Science is supposed to be all about creating theories that can be falsified by tests. But, obviously, the way they run these “studies,” they’re trying to confirm, not falsify. And surprise, surprise, when they come out with the results, they don’t allege that corn syrup causes liver damage. No, no. That would mean that their theory about the cause-and-effect relationship between corn syrup and bodily damage had been confirmed after withstanding falsification. But the tests aren’t about proving their theory wrong, as we’ve seen. It’s about finding “links” and bending over backwards not to come up with an alternative explanation.


46 posted on 04/21/2010 3:38:46 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: truthfreedom

I re-use the bottles for root beer for my grands...! My dad made it when I was a kid, and there is none better.
http://rootbeerextract.net/


47 posted on 04/21/2010 3:39:42 PM PDT by WVKayaker ( Ridicule is the best test of truth. - Philip Dormer Shanhope, Lord Chesterfield)
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To: maica

“Our findings suggest that we may need to go back to healthier diets that are more holistic”

No need to listen to anyone who uses the word “holistic.” It’s a weasel word. He may actually be making a good point; something about consuming a variety of foods and not using the same-old ingredients in everything. But if he wants to say that, he should go ahead and say it. Invoking “holistic” cures is lazy and near-meaningless.


48 posted on 04/21/2010 3:41:19 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: donhunt
Why don’t all these people just mind their own f’n business?

Because then we couldn't be taxing Americans $4 billion a year and handing it to the promoters of HFCS. Remember, even if it's bad for Americans' health, it's "good for America"...and lobbyists.

49 posted on 04/21/2010 3:42:38 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Flying Circus

I have to travel out of my neighborhood to get a restaurant serving of meat with fat on it. I live in the health-nut section of New York. The people who want to live forever have forced them to trim off every microgram. I’m a grown-up, I tell the managers. I can cut off the fat I don’t want. They laugh but keep serving meat that is lean as a bean.


50 posted on 04/21/2010 3:46:52 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Buckeye McFrog; donhunt
Are you dead yet?

And do they have dsl where you are?

51 posted on 04/21/2010 3:53:00 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I limit what I can of HFCS, for both me and my daughter. I did buy a big jar of strawberry preserves, however, and naturally (or not), HFCS was the 2nd ingrdient. I don’t have it that often...but will be getting canning supplies and making my own preserves from here on in. Thanks government, yet again, for forcing another quasi-artifical ingredient into the food chain.


52 posted on 04/21/2010 4:05:16 PM PDT by SueRae
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

But the disaccharide, sucrose (cane sugar) is made of the two monosaccharides glucose and fructose, requiring an enzyme to break it into them. Why then would high fructose corn syrup be bad? What is it and how`s it constructed ( HFCS)? Could the fact that one is an aldose (glucose) and the other`s a ketose (fructose) be the key?


53 posted on 04/21/2010 4:09:50 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Paradox

Whats the proportion of glucose to fructose in each?


54 posted on 04/21/2010 4:12:42 PM PDT by nomad
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To: WVKayaker
Wasn`t there supposed to be an oil in the sassafras root used to make REAL root beer that was linked to cancer?
55 posted on 04/21/2010 4:17:38 PM PDT by nomad
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To: truthfreedom; Drew68
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56 posted on 04/21/2010 4:31:11 PM PDT by Pontiac
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To: Pontiac

Good product, apparently not available at this time.

They should just make it permanently available.


57 posted on 04/21/2010 4:45:03 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: nomad

I’m not educated enough on the technicals to answer your question, but the video *does* address what you asked.

Per the lecturer/presenter in the linked video, the metabolism of glucose is completely and totally different than sucrose or fructose, and doesn’t create the issues that sucrose/fructose do. I’m afraid I must defer to suggesting you watch the video.


58 posted on 04/21/2010 4:51:57 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Voters who thought their ship came in with 0bama are on their own Titanic.)
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To: nomad

Forgot to say in my earlier reply to you that the video I linked kind of lays out this dual threat. The obesity > pre-diabetes thing from HFCS has been suggested for a while, but aligned with the article that started this thread, Dr. Lustig arrives at a very simlar conclusion, eg; that because the metabolic pathway for sucrose/fructose is so remarkably similar to that of ethyl alcohol, we should not be too surprised to see liver-toxic effects from HFCS, up to and including cirrhosis.

Again, it’s whether you believe all this or not. I’m not technically educated enough to properly evaluate his conclusions.


59 posted on 04/21/2010 4:58:22 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Voters who thought their ship came in with 0bama are on their own Titanic.)
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To: nomad

I don’t know anything about the differences. And I don’t know anything about how these differences do or don’t effect the liver or weight gain.

but I can tell you without a doubt 100% certain, that HFCS aggravates my heartburn about 500 times worse than ordinary table sugar. I have a very sensitive stomach and I am prone to severe heartburn...so bad the pain will sometimes make me throw up. if I watch what I eat, I can keep it at bay without pills. I do not eat sugar of any kind or even diet pop. very little tea or coffee also.

But when I was testing everything...eliminating this and that, then trying to add back this then that...I figured out that HFSC is like gasoline(burning gasoline that is on fire) in my stomach. Almost immediately after eating it in fact.


60 posted on 04/21/2010 5:04:50 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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