Posted on 04/22/2010 2:31:27 PM PDT by American Dream 246
I would really like to see some of these clowns lose their heads. It might serve as a deterent.
Doesn’t it take 67 votes to change a rule like that? I think this is a media scare tactic, crap...like the “Obama cancels national day of prayer” on April 15.
I submit this query to smarter folk than I.
He might switch to mincing.
It is a raw, naked power grab. The Rats think that they can do enough damage that for the two 1/2 years that Obastard will hold veto power that it can never be undone.
No, the Constitution states that the Senate has the ability to make its own rules and its rules say that they can change the rules with a simple majority.
The Rats cannot make a rule that binds a future Senate.
What America-hating freaks these DIMs are! Vote them out! In the meantime why aren’t the Republicans screaming?????
You can bet that they are. But you can't hear them because the MSM isn't about to give them a megaphone.
I am not sure about that....
The "nuclear option" would have involved VP Cheney ruling that the filibuster rule did not apply to a vote to confirm, or reject, a judicial nomination. The Senate rules are silent on the point, and the filibuster was not routinely used against judicial nominees until recent years. It would have been a hardball move, but the chair does have the power to resolve disputes.
This, if true, is very different. This is an attempt to overturn by trickery a rule that every Democrat in the Senate (including then RINO Specter, minus Franken who was not seated), specifically voted in favor of just back in January of 2009.
Back when the nuclear option was being talked about, I said that the Republicans ought to go ahead and do it, as the first time the filibuster kept the Democrats from doing something they wanted, when they had a majority, and a the Presidency, they would just change the rules themselves.
Depressing to (apparently) be proven right.
“The only surprise is the lack of repulsion from the public for the administrations agenda.”
The public is repulsed. We’re just biding our time until November. True, there are many who are either all for socialism or those who aren’t paying attention. But, I think the Dems already know the public at large is after their collective, sorry a**es!
Why am I so afraid for Nov?
Too stupid and lazy?
Yes, I agree there is a wholesale difference between what was being contemplated then, and what the Dems are thinking about now. But, the parliamentary maneuver - just describing the mechanics of how they make this work - is the same.
But, what are the Republicans going to do? Maybe they sue, in an attempt to get the Dems to follow the Senate rules - Powell v McCormack maybe helps theme here - but I think it's a very long shot. People overlook the power of the VP when acting in the capacity of President of the Senate. Even Cheney during the legislative debate over the Bush tax cuts wouldn't act in this manner when some wanted him to overrule the parliamentarian using a point of order maneuver. Cheney said, no thanks. We will see if Biden does the same. I'm not going to hold my breath. They know that they're getting fired in 7 months, and this might be their last chance for a while to move their legislative initiatives.
I underestimated their treachery (that's really all you can call it) in the health care debacle. I won't make that mistake twice.
Yeah, but the problem is that after the filibuster is gone the Democrats will make it impossible to ever win an election again by giving all of the illegal aliens amnesty and voting rights. Which will quickly be followed by putting an ULTRACOMMIE on the Supreme Court with ease. They could pack all of the courts with commie supporters, and they couldn't be removed by simple majority. There will be unbridled power to dismantle the rest of the constitution and 8 months to do it in. The Supreme Court couldn't stop them, because they could just pack the court by passing a law by simple majority. Heck, what if the Dems just go for the whole enchilada and suspend elections in November and rule by simple majority. Will they do all of this? Who knows? How crazy do you think they are?
I am scared to death that 0 will pull something to not only keep control of the legislature but somehow garner more senate seats. He is soooo corrupt that he would do it i the light of day and laugh!
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