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97% of Scientists Do Not Believe in the Theory of Catastrophic Man-Made Global Warming
MensNewsDaily.com ^ | July 18, 2010 | Roger F. Gay

Posted on 07/18/2010 11:24:25 AM PDT by RogerFGay

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To: burroak

Nuh-uh!

Every scientist knows that 97.6438% of all statistics are made up on the spot.


21 posted on 07/18/2010 6:02:22 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: RogerFGay

tag


22 posted on 07/18/2010 8:12:24 PM PDT by DBrow (/s)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; 75thOVI; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; ...
So? Science isn't about consensus, it's about making up data to fit an agenda!

:') Thanks Arthur Wildfire! March.
 
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23 posted on 07/20/2010 9:16:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

What?


24 posted on 07/20/2010 9:22:15 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Welcome home to my awesome army grandson!! Prayers and yellow ribbons for Anoreth of CG fame!)
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To: RogerFGay

It is very risky for any group of people to put all of their eggs into the basket of an extremely small minority of folks in the scientific community. Al Gore might be an blowhard (and a groper!), but in the end, that doesn’t matter; science always wins.

Scientific realities are not defined by party or ideological affiliations. If the conservative movement hitches its wagon to a poor hunch that ultimately becomes The Flat Earth Society, the conservative movement will cease to exist, and that is not good.

This fellow explains the danger quite well: http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/science+Global+warming+deniers+liability+conservative+cause/3284292/story.html


25 posted on 07/21/2010 12:31:57 AM PDT by km6xu (1998 Onion Headline: Palestinian Gunman Angered by Stereotypes)
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This fellow explains the danger quite well:

http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/science+Global+warming+deniers+liability+conservative+cause/3284292/story.html

Your linked article is crap. . . Just like anthropogenic global warming. I'd use stronger words but this is a family forum.

It's claim of 3% denialist scientists is based on the IPCC article using statistics based on a hand picked universe of "scientists" who were selected for their adherence to AGW, and then polled about whether they "believed" in AGW. The only "surprise" I see is that there were ANY deniers in the group at all!

The facts are that there have always been a majority of real scientists, many of them meteorologists and climatologists, who have questioned the evidence behind even the existence of Global Warming, and even more who have questioned the anthropogenic nature of it. I speak as one who was taking honors courses in college in the late 60s and early 70s in Anthropogenic Global Cooling. . . Leading to another ice age.

26 posted on 07/21/2010 1:30:26 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: km6xu

Looking at your ‘oh so scant’ posting history.... quite obvious you are a bleeding heart lib... hope that global warming scam doesn’t pan out for you.


27 posted on 07/21/2010 1:37:45 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: RogerFGay

“The Emperor’s New Clothes” - Two weavers persuade the king that the “invisible suit” they have made him cannot be seen by anyone who is unfit for his position or is stupid.

Naturally, no one among the “in-crowd” will admit that he cannot see the suit.

A child, however, blurts out: “But he isn’t wearing anything at all!”


28 posted on 07/21/2010 2:12:05 AM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: burroak

Did you hear about the statistician who drowned in a river whose average was only 1” deep?


29 posted on 07/21/2010 4:53:55 AM PDT by Scythian
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So we're supposed to go back to believing that we'll make the gods angry if we don't do what Al Gore wants (send money, lots of it) and they'll punish us with really really bad weather?

Why are you trying to advise others on what to think and how to behave when you can't tell the difference between science / reality and really really stupid propaganda?
30 posted on 07/21/2010 11:10:16 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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I saaaaid,

So? Science isn't about consensus, it's about making up data to fit an agenda!

:') Thanks Arthur Wildfire! March.
 
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31 posted on 07/21/2010 4:19:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: RogerFGay

Roger, my point is that Al Gore is as irrelevant as is Rush Limbaugh. They are entertainers! While both of them have probably spent a couple of hours googling on the subject, it is clear than neither of them have any background in the sciences. And no, I am not trying to advise others on what to think; quite the contrary, I encourage people to become informed. It drives me nuts when somebody says, “I believe in global warming.” Right or wrong, that implies a blind faith, rather than an understanding of the issue.

Again, science knows nothing about ideology. Where ideology comes in is how to deal with these issues. I don’t believe that sticking one’s head in the sand is ever the way to deal with a growing problem, but I also don’t believe in many of today’s kooky proposals like “cap and trade” (which I liken to papal indulgences).

The author makes the case really well that people of all stripes often tend to go with that which makes them comfortable, rather than making an effort to understand an issue. BTW, the “3%” number comes from a variety of sources. I would take stock in any of them that are not political bodies long before I would the IPCC.

Fortunately, Swordmaker was wise to not hitch his wagon to a stupid star (those who some forty years ago thought that we were going to enter into another ice age). :-) I don’t know if he made the right choice because of his complete education, but again, the numbers of ice age believers (I don’t know what else to call them) were small, they were in the minority, and ultimately, science is always right and the history speaks for itself.

No, I am not saying that the majority (even a vast one) is always right. There was a time when a majority of folks were in support of Senator Joseph McCarthy. Sadly, many people didn’t engage their brains, and many followed him onto the ash heap of history.

In any event, I found the author’s insights engaging, and sadly, nobody here wanted to engage him (calling his writing ‘crap’ doesn’t count). One of the challenges of conservativism is the double-edged sword of being resistant to change. While it is a good trait, one has to accept that the world is a changing place. When I was born, the CO2 in the atmosphere was 330 PPM; it is now 390 PPM. There has undeniably been a change!


32 posted on 07/21/2010 8:38:05 PM PDT by km6xu (1998 Onion Headline: Palestinian Gunman Angered by Stereotypes)
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To: RogerFGay

science is based on experiments, not opinion polls.


33 posted on 07/23/2010 5:50:52 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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