Posted on 08/09/2010 11:25:41 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Good post and just read it.
I seem to recall something from over twenty years ago that was to have proven this was possible. Someplace in the world was a large sort of inverted stone bowl, or “cap”, formation in an area that no dinosaurs or plant matter was expected to have existed. This stone cap was unbroken, but they were going to tap through it to see if gas and oil were on the bottom side.
If that happened, which I don’t recall since I was in school at the time and didn’t keep up on everything, why wouldn’t this have been largely answered already?
Given sufficient energy virtually any molecular transformation is thermodynamically possible.
And indeed gravitationally or thermally produced Pressure, through various contrivances can be harnessed for Free Energy (A).
We haven't even begun to touch the possibilities.
Except that the truly ugly Left, politicians, desperately need to manipulate others to confirm their own sad identity. That is how we view for example Elena Kagan, Obama, etc. and no other way.
Johnny Suntrade
This experiment seems a lot like that “a lighting strike in the primordial soup can create something like an amino acide” which was pretty much taken to mean life on Earth was an accident of nature.
But again, that expirement and theory was politcally palatable, while naturally occuring oil would upset quite a few applecarts.
Finite or Infinite?
A lot more money to be made when something is finite...
Yeah. Look up Thomas Gold. This has been an ongoing debate now for at least 15 years. If it is true, It could mean you could tap a well pretty much anywhere and, if it’s deep enough, maybe come up with some oil. I over-simplify (and exagerate), of course.
acide = acid, expirement = experiment
Sorry for my haste in typing.
Related :
The Deep Hot Biosphere: The Myth of Fossil Fuels [Hardcover]
***************************************EXCERPT*************************************
Thomas Gold (Author)
This review is from: The Deep Hot Biosphere: The Myth of Fossil Fuels (Hardcover) This morning's New York Times featured an article "Methane in Deep Earth: A Possible New Source of Energy" reporting on new research that partly confirms the claim in this book-- that the methane deep in the earth's mantle is primordial (not due to decayed buried vegetation) and is the source of petroleum. The article showed how methane can be generated from water and carbonate rock when the applied pressure is equal to that found in the mantle.
Gold's book describes research done largely by Russians and Ukrainians on the origin of oil, which has been shamefully discounted and ignored in the West. The Western dogma, he claims, is just another one of those things that nearly everyone believes, but is wrong.
“A couple have pursued this claim. But commercial production of oil, like in the rest of the world, is located on traditional geological research, and only found in sedimentary rock. I’ve been on the design team of Siberian Oil fields.”
Wouldn’t sedimentary rock be less dense than mineral rock thus creating the only available conduits for deep oil to seep out of inner earth? Not a geologists, just a layman attempting another explanation for the correlation of sedimentary deposits and the presence of oil. Correlation is not causation.
Looks like God thought of everything.
YUP.
BEEN KNOWN FOR A VERY LONG TIME
THESE BLOKES
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2
JUST WANT TO GET RICHER AND RICHER OFF IT AS WELL AS SUBJUGATE ALL US SLAVES AND SERFS.
This doesn’t discount Peak Oil...we are eating thru what is easily found,.. rather rapidly...and maybe faster than the “natural processes” whatever they really are, generate more.
Sorry Johnny but that is very wrong. Pressure is a FORCE per area while energy per volume is, well "energy density" which is more an engineering/technology thing (e.g. battery or fuel capacity) than a physics thing.
You get energy from pressure by having it do some work over distance, or as high school physics teaches: Energy=Work=Force*distance.
If what you said is true, then you could create energy just by standing perfectly still - i.e. the weight on your feet transforms itself into energy.
I find the “fossil fuel” theory quite “shallow”. :)
I believe, regardless of the formation process, we are consuming it faster than it is produced. If not, I would not expect us to continue to need to go deeper to meet production demands.
Is there oil on Titan then?
Please note: the abiotic theory of oil production is about oil. Not about methane or any simple mixture of hydrocarbons.
There are a lot of places with oil wherein drilling is verbotten, so “what is [easily] available” and what is “allowable” [for those places] are two different things.
Does the book also document the failure of that drilling to find oil for commercial production?
Thomas Gold was studied Astrophysics and liked to produce lots of theories and media attention. One of the was the moon was pounded into tiny dust it wouldn’t support the weight of the astronauts or landing module. That theory was wrong too.
Ya mean... scientists have their heads up their a$$e$, again? No $hiite, Dick Tracy!
In Gold’s book, “Deep Hot Biosphere”, it’s been shown that you can drill at any point on the planet and eventually reach hydrocarbons.
Chances are, it isn’t decayed dead dinosaurs at 20,000 feet.
The Russian scientists have been on this idea of abiotic oil generation a lot longer than people in the west.
It sort of makes sense, in a way.
The Russians’ culture was atheistic and assumed God did not exist.
Western scientists’ work was biased in that they were in a culture that was very theistic and they like to rebel against that.
Dinosaurs from millions of years ago making oil is better to use when pointing and laughing at “fundies” than saying “oil is created through natural processes in the earth”.
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