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Collapse of ancient Ellesmere ice shelf *stuns scientists*
http://www.nunatsiaqonline.ca/stories/article/260810_collapse_of_ancient_ellesmere_ice_shelf_stuns_scientists ^ | August 26th, 2010

Posted on 08/27/2010 9:06:50 PM PDT by TaraP

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To: TaraP
“We can’t just sweep it under the carpet and say ‘It’s one of nature’s cycles’,”

Yeah, because that would be a logic-based argument, rather than an emotion-based one.

41 posted on 08/28/2010 8:25:06 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: TaraP

We should embrace this warming period, it allowed the development of mankind.


42 posted on 08/28/2010 8:27:54 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: TaraP
Great Photos!

Does not look that big!

I thought those maps / satellite photos kind of put it into perspective of the larger picture of the Arctic ice mass.

So is it the start of something to worry about, or something that occasionally happens over the longer geological time frame?

I am not sure. Seems to me to be not that much to worry about considering all the other ice mass up there.

Now if other similar sized pieces start breaking off...

43 posted on 08/28/2010 8:30:18 AM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one... Luke 22:36)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
It's rates, not the fact that it happens. The current rate is greatly accelerated.

If my car started to take 10 gallons of gas to make it across town, many FReepers would reply, "Who cares? Cars burn fuel...there's nothing wrong!"

44 posted on 08/28/2010 8:30:39 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: SuziQ
how would they know otherwise?

The laws of physics don't change enough for that. Counting seasonal layers, confirming flow rates, etc., are valid measurement/analysis techniques.

45 posted on 08/28/2010 8:32:49 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: jacquej

Fortunately, scientists and engineers understand there are means of changing rates by understanding the mechanisms of retreat there.

Fighting Mother Nature is usually expensive, though.


46 posted on 08/28/2010 8:40:59 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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...Trudy Wohlleben, a senior ice forecaster at the service...

How do I get a scam job like that?

"We can’t just sweep it under the carpet and say ‘It’s one of nature’s cycles’,”...

Why not? Do tell.

47 posted on 08/28/2010 8:41:20 AM PDT by Doohickey ("It Takes A Spillage." - Mark Steyn)
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To: Gondring

My point was how do they know what is NORMAL, if they don’t have the information about the previous ice sheet, and how long it stayed attached, before dropping off. The information from the layers, etc, is all well and good, but unless they’ve measure a different ‘drop’, they wouldn’t know what is the typical time frame for its occurrence.


48 posted on 08/28/2010 11:13:41 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

But we do know.


49 posted on 08/28/2010 7:17:50 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

50 posted on 08/29/2010 10:32:48 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Release the Second Chakra !!!!!!!" ... Al Gore, 10/24/06)
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