Show birth certificate, or don't get on ballot (Eligibility storm clouds on horizon for Obama)

WND ^ | NOVEMBER 17, 2010 | Bob Unruh

[M Kehoe]

Message to 0bama. If Florida, and Ohio enact similar laws, you can't win the election...unless, you actually have a valid COLB.

5.56mm

[Munz]

I read your reply and understand that you were running late for an appointment. But you said something that reminded me of much speculation on FR when you wrote

>GW Bush is not a chicken-hearted person. He told the terrorists to make his day. And with the whole world against him he showed that he meant business. Yet after the financial crisis he was saying that the entire western world as we know it would come to an end if they didn’t pass TARP. We went months without TARP and nothing bad happened. But GW was speaking in apocalyptic terms. Something had scared the tar out of him.<

I am interested in what you think may have scared the tar out of him. I can’t imagine Soros or anyone else backing him into a corner. is that what you were thinking?
Can you elaborate when you get some time please?
i am extremely interested in your thoughts on why he did TARP or more to the point, what he actually feared .. what or who manipulated him into doing it all.

[UCFRoadWarrior]

For the third year in a row, I have to admit that I still cannot understand why none of the excellent conservative pundits nor FOX news has totally avoided this issue. It should have been a slam dunk. I mean, we’re on Nobama on so many things, but this whole topic has been avoided TOTALLY by Rush, Levin, Hannity, Coulter, etc. NONE OF THEM HAVE LENT A SINGLE WORD IN THIS CAUSE EXCEPT AS AN OCCASIONAL JOKE. Why have they completely and deliberately avoided this fundamental issue? What gives????

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Maybe they are secretly Obama supporters?

It is troubling that many of these “conservatives” are siding with the Liberals and Democrats on the Obama BC issue.

I do want to add that Rusty Humphries and Bill Cunningham have covered the Obama BC issue...and have given the Obama BC investigators plenty of air time on their programs.

[UCFRoadWarrior]

Do you have another source besides World Nut Daily? I’d like to forward...but not with that source.

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Not sure if Jon Leibowitz and The Daily Show will cover this story

[Diggity]

All it takes is one state.

[rxsid]

"Do you have another source besides World Nut Daily? I’d like to forward...but not with that source."

How about the state of Texas legislature web site?

82R302 JRJ-D

By: Berman H.B. No. 295

A BILL TO BE ENTITLED
AN ACT relating to certification for placement on the ballot of candidates
for president or vice-president of the United States.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Section 192.033, Election Code, is amended by
amending Subsection (a) and adding Subsection (d) to read as
follows:
(a) Except as provided by Subsection (c) or (d), the
secretary of state shall certify in writing for placement on the
general election ballot the names of the candidates for president
and vice-president who are entitled to have their names placed on
the ballot.
(d) The secretary of state may not certify the name of a
candidate for president or vice-president unless the candidate has
presented the candidate's original birth certificate indicating
that the person is a natural-born United States citizen.
SECTION 2. This Act takes effect September 1, 2011.

http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/82R/billtext/html/HB00295I.htm

b.t.w. This, hopefully, trustworthy source was mentioned and directly linked to, in the "World Nut Daily" article.

[Eaker]

Frantzie likes to pretend that he is an American rather than from loserville and bankrupt Iceland.

[Rashputin]

I agree with you and am very disappointed that McCain hasn't and won't pursue this. I do have a somewhat different perspective on the guy that most, though. I don't think he should even be in politics, period. Given what I know of the captivity he went through and having been friends with someone who was a captive for only two years rather than a long time, I doubt he can help himself or even recognize his desire to not be confrontational. He'll put up a show and a display, as they call it, but deep down inside something is a bit broken and that something is what it takes to stick an aggressive course of action for a protracted period of time. It's like people who were abused as children and can never completely overcome it and never learn to compensate for their weakness. Everyone has weaknesses, but not everyone learns to compensate for them because it's a natural human tendency to either over compensate or to ignore the weaknesses in ourselves

I know, I'm not a shrink and I don't know the guy personally, but I think he's far more fragile when it comes to some types of confrontation than he realizes himself. So, I think I know why he fails and fails in a way that probably even baffles him. If you watch his reactions during the debates in 2008, I think you can see a touch of what I'm talking about in the way he first would attack, then seem to almost shrink when put in the position to continue the attack rather than accommodate or recant.

McCain should have held a series of appointed rather than elected positions. Had that been the course he followed he'd probably be a respected figure in conservative circles. As it stands now, he's at best a disappointment and at worst treacherous for having saddled us with things like McCain/Fiengold.

Regards

[TheConservativeParty]

Maybe he’ll use the old “I need to spend more time with my family” excuse.

[Tunehead54]

Agreed. I think it should state something along these lines:

“Any candidate for the Presidency of the United States of America shall produce documents sufficient to establish his or her eligibility under the Constitution of the United States of America to the Secretary of State as to age and natural born citizen status. All documents produced shall be public records and immediately released for examination.”

Now with Soros planting SOS agents in as many states as possible we need an additional clause allowing for the legislature to call a special session by a minority (20% ?) of legislators to review and vote on the sufficiency of the documentation produced.

As you can see it quickly becomes complicated ... anyone have a suggestion or two?

[Drew68]

You just bring so much to this forum, Frantzie. You've really done wonders at upholding the integrity of this place.

Jim must be proud to have such individuals as yourself representing Free Republic, raising the bar of intelligent conservative dialogue.

[Frantzie]

Drew you are a known anti-birther aka Obama supporter.

Your comment here today is just more proof. PO aka FO

[rxsid]

"Really?
I seriously doubt Ails or Murdock would be even slight intimidated by sorass, the ballerina or brokenaxlerod"

How about a sitting Senator?

Sen. Rockefeller: FCC Should Take FOX News, MSNBC Off Airwaves

[Video at link]

SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-WV): "There's a little bug inside of me which wants to get the FCC to say to FOX and to MSNBC: 'Out. Off. End. Goodbye.' It would be a big favor to political discourse; to our ability to do our work here in Congress; and to the American people, to be able to talk with each other and have some faith in their government and more importantly, in their future."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/11/17/sen_rockefeller_fcc_should_take_fox_news_msnbc_off_airwaves.html

There was that rumor, of course unsubtantiated, that said Fox (& the other networks) had been threatened with retribution should they make an issue of Barry's ineligibility. However, I would not put it past this socialist/marxist administration to have the FCC levy major fines and/or pull their license had they pursued the issue in 08/09. Or, even in late 2010 (see above) with the changing political winds.

[rxsid]

ping to the above.

[bushpilot1]

“Dont mess with Texas”

only in college football they can be messed with..all that talent..

[tractorman]

If just one State passed this law, Obama would not run again because the gravity of non-compliance with State birth disclosure is outweighed by the secrets hidden in the documents themselves.

[dusttoyou]

JAY ROCKEFELLER? Come on this weenie couldn’t get elected to Dog Catcher anywhere except WV and there only because of his last name.

Hey, I got to run call my broker again, for more shares of ALCOA.

[butterdezillion]

Here are a few links for you to peruse:

http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/2966

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13373

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2008/11/fox-news-channel-engages-in-chinese.html

The following are links to an interview Doug Hagmann had with Laurie Roth. I’ve listened to them all but only gotten through the first 2 hours taking notes and could share the notes if I can find them and if you would believe that my notes are accurate. Otherwise, the links are:

http://www.therothshow.com/demos/recent/hour1Aug0709.mp3

http://www.therothshow.com/demos/recent/hour2Aug0709.mp3

http://www.therothshow.com/demos/recent/hour3Aug0709.mp3

http://www.sodahead.com/fun/why-are-obamas-records-sealed/blog-144427/

I’m not ready to post a large post on it yet but I’m looking at a timeline of quite a few things that were going on from September - December of 2008, and the more I see, the more credible Hagmann’s claims are to me.

And the more credible my theory about the financial crisis being a deliberate tool to overcome the positive effect of Sarah Palin being chosen as McCain’s VP candidate and ensure that Obama’s ineligibility would not be handled lawfully. When you start putting dates, events, and news articles in order and compare that timeline to what the theory would suggest, the pattern is quite striking. It suggests that Soros was deathly afraid of Sarah Palin. I wonder exactly what communications Soros and/or his henchmen had with John McCain, to get him to muzzle Sarah Palin.

[butterdezillion]

Was tinfoil booming before 9-11?

Sometimes - not often, mind you, but sometimes - there really are conspiracies.

When you have multiple government agencies covering up what have already been proven as forgeries, breaking laws and rules, etc - all on one issue that could very easily be cleared up if genuine documents were brought forward.... it’s not crazy to suggest that there is a conspiracy on that particular issue.

As to whether the media would cover up such a conspiracy, I’ll just say one phrase: man-made global warming.

One day we will know who was accurate and who was crazy. I’m not afraid of that day at all.

[butterdezillion]

I don’t know whether there’s anything embarrassing on his BC or not. Unless a person would see the confidential medical portion, what is on the long-form should match what is on a COLB.

What I do know, though, is that the HDOH has made a statutory admission that Obama’s BC is amended and is thus not legally valid. Knowing that, we don’t even need to know what is claimed on the BC. We know it is not legally valid and that he thus was never lawfully certified as eligible and certainly didn’t - even COULDN’T - “qualify” as required by the 20th Amendment. That’s all we really need to know. And there is no reason for the HDOH to make deceptive statements to trick people into thinking that the BC they’ve been talking about is legally valid.