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The sun rises two days early in Greenland, sparking fears that climate change is accelerating
The Daily Mail (UK) ^ | January 14, 2011 | By Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 01/14/2011 5:48:20 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Izzy Dunne
"Brett Favre will come out of retirement to be there."

His sister will provide the ice.

61 posted on 01/14/2011 6:33:27 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: rarestia

I wonder how many degees of shift would cause a two day change in Winter sunrise in Greenland? There must be some math wizard on FReepers that can give us an answer.


62 posted on 01/14/2011 6:34:22 AM PST by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: kidd

“1. The reference point, from which sunrise is determined, was moved. This is the most likely explanation for the sudden change.
2. There was a minor change in the elevation of the local earth’s crust. I’m not familiar with the tectonics of the town. “

I’m with you. I once did calculations on radar visibility- what can your radar detect given how high it is and how high the target is, over the curvature of the earth. I was surprised how sensitive thjis is. If you make your radar mast ten feet taller, you can detect a ship’s past over the horizon at much further ranges. and it works the other way too.

So if you move your observer up a bit, and then have a few feet of snow missing from your “horizon”, the sun can be seen at much lower angles (earlier).

If they used a fixed location and were using ocean horizon as reference, then I’d be concerned, but theis is Catastrophic Human-Caused Climate Change propaganda aimed at people who don’t have specific knowlege.


63 posted on 01/14/2011 6:37:28 AM PST by DBrow
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To: fella

read the article again.


64 posted on 01/14/2011 6:39:53 AM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All

http://radarproblems.com/calculators/horizon.htm

This is the gist of the problem, even though it uses ocean horizon. Imagine a bump where the sight line crosses the ocean, then take the bump away.


65 posted on 01/14/2011 6:40:14 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So they’re telling us the sky is falling?


66 posted on 01/14/2011 6:40:53 AM PST by untenured
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To: fella

The earthquake in Chile popped into my mind.


67 posted on 01/14/2011 6:42:09 AM PST by cajuncow
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To: Walkingfeather

“Modern Phrenology”

Don’t forget rogoproctology - the divination of the future through the study of sphincter wrinkles.

Don’t ask me for any specifics on how they do it.

I am only aware of the study, not the master of it’s visual and tactile secrets.


68 posted on 01/14/2011 6:43:43 AM PST by fruser1
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Fretting over climate change is like fretting over evolution of species, tektonic plate shifting, magnetic lines reversing, volcano eruption, meterorite impact, and adiabatic expansion.

It's all part of the laws of physics and of creation. I know progressives like to take advantage of a crisis, but pick one which does not take centuries to shift one measurable point from baseline.

69 posted on 01/14/2011 6:44:48 AM PST by blackdog
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To: SengirV
But for the first time in history

What part of the article makes that ridiculous contention unridiculous?

70 posted on 01/14/2011 6:45:49 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: SoConPubbie
Climate Change Believers, the modern day equivalent of the flat-earthers and the Salem Witch Trials.

A tagline worthy statement.

71 posted on 01/14/2011 6:49:12 AM PST by OB1kNOb (You are free to choose your actions, but never the resulting consequences.)
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To: MsLady

The sun didn’t “do” anything different.........


72 posted on 01/14/2011 6:50:31 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: vbmoneyspender
I think it's time for Mel Brooks to do a "History of The World, Part III"

I think the best material would start from Chamberlain to date.

73 posted on 01/14/2011 6:50:32 AM PST by blackdog
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To: fella

It really bothers me that no scientific scholars are coming out to discuss solar and universal points of interest coming up.

For instance, in the next 18 - 24 months we’re expected to cross into and over the galactic plane, something we’ve not done in millenia. The potential for unforeseen issues is there considering no one has been around to document and study the effects on the Earth due to changing magnetic and radiational exposures to whatever might be viewable during that transit.

We’re also long overdue for a polar shift (where north becomes south and vice versa). While the planet itself won’t flip, the shifting of the poles will be slow and anything exposed under the magnetospheric “dip” will be irradiated from the sun.

And let’s not forget the solar maximum is coming as well. The last time the solar max was around, we lost some satellites and terrestrial radio stations (in the 70s, I believe?).

I’m not a scientist, but I’ve read plenty of discussions on all of these things. Do your own research; something the real “scientists” are failing to do. Our lives are dictated by forces much larger than ourselves. To think that automobiles and hairspray are causing global issues is pure lunacy and ignorant of the fact that we’re just a big ball of iron careening around a giant ball of hydrogen in the vacuum of space.


74 posted on 01/14/2011 6:50:34 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: dusttoyou
Horizon changes on land are possible! The Great Lakes areas are rising due to slow rebounding from all the Ice Age weight which pressed that area down.

True but it doesn't happen fast enough to be noticeable in a human lifetime.
75 posted on 01/14/2011 6:51:07 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: kidd

Hey! You are injecting logic and reason into the Global Warming discussion. Al Gore does not approve!


76 posted on 01/14/2011 6:52:04 AM PST by marktwain
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To: ontap

I think it’s an improvement that they’re acknowledging that the sun might have something to do with warming.


77 posted on 01/14/2011 6:53:00 AM PST by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: silverleaf
global warming now makes the sun rise?

Shhhh! Don't tell Obama. It might burst his narcissistic bubble. ;-)

78 posted on 01/14/2011 6:53:38 AM PST by OB1kNOb (You are free to choose your actions, but never the resulting consequences.)
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To: fruser1

LOL isn’t that what they teach in most graduate education and gay studies programs around the country?


79 posted on 01/14/2011 6:57:12 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Someone forgot to wind the master clock.


80 posted on 01/14/2011 6:59:50 AM PST by sasquatch
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