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Posted on 03/29/2011 8:58:33 PM PDT by freedomwarrior998
Not to frustrate you, allmendream, but Earth rotates daily along its orbital path around the Sun.
A day is going to come when it is probably too late that we realize we failed to stand. This stuff? We know it is true, but what does it matter when the truth no longer matters?
Doesn’t frustrate me at all.
Yes the Earth rotates daily as it travels along its orbital path around the Sun.
However it does NOT rotate daily AROUND the Sun as it travels along its orbital path.
Its rotation is about its own axis, it doesn’t make the distance of its orbital path round the Sun in 24 hours but in 365 days.
I can spin in place once per second. Does it follow then that if I am standing outside the Empire State Building, that I can rotate AROUND THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING once per second?
No. I couldn’t possibly make that distance in that time.
Neither can the Earth make the distance AROUND the Sun in 24 hours. It isn’t traveling that fast.
Spinning in place isn’t traveling around the Sun or any other external object - it is just spinning in place.
If you are spinning around as you complete a path around an object - your rotation around the object is measured by how long it takes you to complete the circuit - NOT how long it takes you to complete a spin as you are completing the circuit.
Otherwise I can “rotate” around the one mile track in one second just by completing a one second spin around my own vertical axis! Wow, a one second mile!
Are you clear on that or would another picture help?
>> However it does NOT rotate daily AROUND the Sun as it travels along its orbital path.
But it does, not unlike a top rotating about its axis as it goes around the corner of a box. It doesn’t matter around what time it happens, and neither does it matter if it hangs around in one spot.
Wow is that stupid.
A top is spinning as it travels a circle around a box.
We have a rotational speed of the top around its own axis, and a orbital speed as it circles around the box.
You seem fixated upon confusing how fast it orbits around its own axis (spin) with how fast it is orbiting around the box.
They are two completely independent quantities.
At this point I have to assume you are joking. Are you REALLY this dense?
The Earth orbits around the Sun at 30 kilometers/second, and in 365 days it travels 942,000,000 kilometers to complete its yearly orbit.
Are you really saying you think it completes this 942,000,000 kilometer pathway AROUND the Sun every 24 hours?
What evidence do you have that the Earth is moving this fast?
How would the seasons be changed if the incidence of sunlight that causes winter - happened every day?
You are aware of what causes winter and summer, no?
Spinning in place as you travel around something isn’t going around it every time you spin.
What evidence do you have that the Earth is making a 942,000,000 kilometer pathway AROUND the Sun every 24 hours?
In a scenario where there is a spinning top traveling in a circle around a big lamp in a dark room; the spinning top represents the Earth and the Big Lamp is the Sun.
The spinning top spins once per second (our systems “day”) and travels all the way around the lamp every 365 seconds.
By spinning part of itself into and out of the light of the lamp every second (our “day”)- it does NOT go “around” the lamp.
By what possible logic would you say the top goes around the lamp every second in this system?
Do you understand what causes winter in the Northern Hemisphere while the Southern Hemisphere has summer?
Do you know what an equinox or a solstice is?
Do you understand the constelations, and why we only see a particular one during part of the year?
>> What evidence do you have that the Earth is making a 942,000,000 kilometer pathway AROUND the Sun every 24 hours?
Now, you’re being disingenuous. The only reason you’re asking that question is to entrap me into premise that you assumed, but not one that I have stated.
I made myself clear in post #67.
Clear as mud.
entrap?
A question about a scientific model is entrapment?
Yeah. Way to defend your model there champ!
You’re throwing in completely irrelevant nonsense to a very simple geometric event. You’re doing this to cloud an incredibly basic transformation.
Your argument is the Earth makes one and only one rotation around the Sun in the course of a year, your ridiculous conflations notwithstanding.
If you’re so confident the Earth makes one and only one rotation around the Sun in the course of a year, why don’t you make that assertion directly without exceptions and the diversionary, astronomical gibberish you find so empowering?
So what causes winter?
What is an equinox or a solstice and what causes it?
Why can we only see some constellations during certain parts of the year?
Do you stand by your assertion the Earth makes one and only one rotation around the Sun in the course of a year?
Can you explain what causes winter?
Can you explain what causes an equinox or a solstice?
Can you explain why you cannot see particular constellations during certain months?
Can you explain how the Earth could be moving fast enough to cover that distance?
So far.
No.
No.
No.
and.......
No.
Your assertion is the Earth makes one and only one rotation around the Earth during the course of a year.
>> Can you explain...
Those questions have no bearing whatsoever on the simple property of Earth’s daily rotation.
You’re assigning a specific geometric meaning to the word “around”. I say the word is ambiguous and does not restrict the geometrically independent property of Earth’s daily rotation. I also have a problem using the word “rotate” in place of Earth’s elliptical orbit. As I mentioned earlier, the word “revolve” is better for characterizing Earth’s annual motion around the Sun.
How about we let this go, FRiend? I understand what you’re getting at, but I do not agree with the interpretation of the terms of the original assertion:
“It takes the Earth one year to rotate around the Sun.”
But I guess you believe in the one second mile. Spin on.
Those questions have direct bearing upon the simple property of the Earths YEARLY orbit around the Sun.
Your inability to answer them speaks volumes.
And an equinox or solstice has much to do with the simple property of Earth’s daily rotation. How could it not?
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