I could have told you...Whirlpools suck.
Posted on 04/12/2011 9:18:36 PM PDT by TaraP
HEHEHEHEHEHE!
There is no gravity. The earth sucks.
It started getting spacey about the time that “Natrium” and “Chlorium” appeared in the narrative. This might be the Roosky way of referring to Na+ and Cl-, but come on, the science editor should know more about English-speaking conventions?
Still it can’t be denied that bodies of ocean water (and “fresh water” for that matter) are pretty darn good conductors of electricity. However, given that the earth’s magnetic poles are close to its rotational poles, the rotation of the earth does not cause waters to significantly cut through lines of magnetic flux except near the rotational poles. I’d suspect undersea geography as a reason for whirlpools before I’d suspect electromagnetic interaction with ocean waters.
I could have told you...Whirlpools suck.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sargasso_Sea
Look at the epicenter of the Sargasso sea......strangely familiar location.
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/marinesafety/bulletins-1981-02-eng.htm
The second link notes the whirlpools abundant in these straits.
I had the dubious pleasure of manning the helm on the USCG Sedge (buoy tender) as a seaman in the early 70’s.
The big brass helm wheel was spinning rather violently, by me, just in order to keep the compass heading.
Between the currents and the whirlpools, quite a ride.
I thought everyone knew that Whirlpools come from Benton Harbor...
"However, given that the earth’s magnetic poles are close to its rotational poles, the rotation of the earth does not cause waters to significantly cut through lines of magnetic flux except near the rotational poles. I’d suspect undersea geography as a reason for whirlpools before I’d suspect electromagnetic interaction with ocean waters."
I think assuming ALL of these phenomena to "differences in salinity" or "undersea geography" is problematic. As the article says....ionic conductivity and magnetic fields may also play a part.
One of the interesting tidbits that I picked up while researching "global warming" is that the sun's magnetic field has DOUBLED in strength over the time we have been able to measure it.
Physics says that any conductor moving in a magnetic field generates a current. This MUST mean that the suns field dumps energy into both the molten interior of the earth, AND into the oceans in a mechanism totally "nonphotonic".
How big the effects are.....?????? Despite many years of looking for scientific examination of the effects (or even the existence of same), I have found essentially zip.
LOL!
From your link, cool stuff:
“Ripple Rock was a submerged twin-peak mountain that lay just nine feet beneath the surface of Seymour Narrows. It was a serious hazard to shipping, sinking 119 vessels and taking 114 lives. The gunboat USS Saranac was one of the rock’s first recorded victims. On April 5, 1958, after twenty-seven months of tunneling and engineering work, Ripple Rock was blown up with 1,375 tons of Nitramex 2H explosive making it the largest commercial, non-nuclear blast in North America. The Halifax explosion in 1917 was larger but it was not a deliberate act.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVQOvKh3IWY
You may be onto something.
Bush’s fault
The magnetic field of the sun would be cut by the waters of the rotating earth due to the earth’s orbital tilt, but the flux, out where the Earth is, isn’t a “whole lot.” It is too little to disturb magnetic compasses at the degree of precision they are traditionally used (IIRC one arc second is the limit). How it could make great volumes of water move above the “noise” produced by earthly weather... I’d like to know. Could this water movement be fueled by tidal energy?
Well, I'd like to find at least ONE serious treatment of the magnitude of the effect(s), or even some thought devoted to it(them). The error in magnetic compasses may or may not be indicative. Even a small amount extra, compounded over time, may be sufficient to literally "shake things up", and the only datum I know about is the known relative change in the solar field, which, as I said, has doubled.
There is a LOT of information around the fringes that points to an increase of vulcanism (though vulcanism may not be the right term, as the effects show up in ways other than just volcanoes). Much data seems to indicate a "more active" state of the interior of the earth. I have a VERY hard time seeing how photonic processes could be the explanation.
Imagine that, whirlpools forming in water with currents. I can sure see why scientists are puzzled. I mean, after all they are puzzled because they have become like gods, knowers of all things. I sure hope they figure it out (whirlpools forming in water with current) because I’m just out of mind with anxiety over this ...
The math, or a fairly comprehensive simulation, should be possible for that one factor.
I agree — vulcanism, or hotspots on the ocean floor due to closeness of magma, could well cook up some effects.
Oh, I think the term is “geothermal.”
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