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Quake shifted Japan; towns now flood at high tide
Associated Press ^ | May 9, 2011 | JAY ALABASTER

Posted on 05/09/2011 7:29:27 PM PDT by decimon

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To: decimon

My heart tells me that the Japanese will weather this latest calamity. They are a sturdy people, and are seldom overcome by Nature.

My prayers are all I can offer.


21 posted on 05/09/2011 8:38:55 PM PDT by Monkey Face (It's bad luck to be superstitious.)
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To: blam

Yah... I was a Coastie stationed on a Cutter in Astoria. I’ve been up and down the river to portland a couple of times. Once I did it with the Columbia River Pilots, on a big car-carrier. That... was a gas...


22 posted on 05/09/2011 8:59:48 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: blam
May as well throw Portland in too.

The altitude of Portland civic center is 20 ft the Columbia River is about 15'. I wonder what the tidal bore on the Columbia River would look like with a 30' Tsunami?


23 posted on 05/09/2011 9:21:48 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Time to raise Cain.)
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To: Ramius; SunkenCiv; blam; decimon; All

When the great volcanos of 1902 hit St. Vincent and Martinique, coastal areas in St. Vincent varied by 15’ or more as a result of the eruptions.


24 posted on 05/09/2011 10:10:49 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: decimon; maikeru; Dr. Marten; Eric in the Ozarks; Al Gator; snowsislander; sushiman; ...
Living in a tide pool in Japan...

日本 ピング  (kono risuto ni hairitai ka detai wo shirasete kudasai : let me know if you want on or off this list)

25 posted on 05/09/2011 11:12:11 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Strategerist

It is possible to have “splay” or “pop up” faulting along a subduction zone.


26 posted on 05/10/2011 1:35:29 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Eska

A 7.9? Really? Which part of the state was affected? (Not Anchorage, I’m assuming.)


27 posted on 05/10/2011 4:11:15 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: blam
Longview, on the Columbia River, can take deep draft international shipping and will become a huge new coal export facility in the next year or so. The site is a brownfield, former aluminum smelter.
28 posted on 05/10/2011 5:48:09 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: Clara Lou
The wife and I were teachers at Mentasta that year (Indian Village 40 miles west of Tok). The ground opened up in front yard in a line 3 foot wide, 5 foot deep, and slid about 10 foot. Every piece of furniture was flipped over, wood stoves slid 10 feet across the cabin floor, and I had a geyser of brown water hitting the ceiling outta my well head which was in the laundry room. Broke all water, oil ,and propane lines. 3 foot deep of junk everywhere throughout the house. Heard trains & such roaring down the valleys for a day or so. We had 6.0 after shocks 7-8 times a day for about a week, then aftershocks continued for about a month. Nov 3rd 2002, Alaska; look it up; was biggest one anyhwere in the world that year;;; right in my front yard. It shook a few cabins off their foundations but FEMA came in and got our utilities back on line pretty quick, they had all the pipes & fittings on hand.

Some of the Indians took it quite hard, freaked out; others in stride. Funny thing it's not the ones you think have it together that deal with adversity well, no joke. I hear it was the same with White People in 64 in Anch; not just a backward Indian thing.

Don't want to see no more either; that was the shaker to remember in my life. The roads are still all fouled up out that way from that earthquake too.

29 posted on 05/10/2011 7:55:33 AM PDT by Eska
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To: freedumb2003
You mentioned the “why” the port moved inland but you didn't mention “how”. Someone was wise enough to dig a 50 mile (aprox) long ship channel so Houston could become a port.
30 posted on 05/10/2011 8:06:04 AM PDT by Ditter
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>>You mentioned the “why” the port moved inland but you didn’t mention “how”. Someone was wise enough to dig a 50 mile (aprox) long ship channel so Houston could become a port. <<

That is an excellent point. Back then, people had vision and the cajones to make the vision reality.

Nowadays, everything is incremental.


31 posted on 05/10/2011 11:50:51 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. /P. J. O'Rourke, 1991)
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To: Eska

I lived in Yokohama in the 50s as an Army Brat and remember the big quakes. Sometimes the feeling was a gentle sway back and forth and once in a while a big up and down hammer would roll through.

One afternoon I’d gotten off the street car near our house when the ground rippled hard enough to bounce the street car off its tracks. About an hour later, a Izu wrecker truck appeared and the crew got the car back on tracks.


32 posted on 05/10/2011 11:59:28 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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33 posted on 05/10/2011 12:14:58 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: freedumb2003

The Houston Ship channel was certainly visionary and no small challenge but the way Galveston pulled it’s self up by it’s bootstraps I find even more amazing. Do you know the history of Galveston after the 1900 storm?


34 posted on 05/10/2011 12:55:53 PM PDT by Ditter
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>>Do you know the history of Galveston after the 1900 storm?<<

Not much — I have kinfolk in Houston so I only know their handed-down stories (the usual local COC stuff) and what I have been able to ascertain using my Google-fu.

From what I understand, Galveston is a close #2 to South Padre Island in sun-seeking tourism.


35 posted on 05/10/2011 1:22:51 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. /P. J. O'Rourke, 1991)
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To: blam; Ramius

I took an LST up the Columbia for the Rose Festival in 1989. Good liberty but I wouldn’t want to do that sea detail on a regular basis.


36 posted on 05/10/2011 2:14:40 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY ("The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen." -Dennis Prager)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Yah. It’s a mother of a special sea detail. Five, maybe six hours depending how fast you run it.

In fact... that’s why I bargained (read: begged) for a trip up the river with the Columbia River Pilots. I was a QM, and I wanted to see how they did it and get some pointers. And wow... I wasn’t disappointed. Those guys are shiphandling gods. I’m pretty sure the pilot could’ve had that car-carrier dancing to Swan Lake if he wanted.


37 posted on 05/10/2011 2:55:51 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Hey wait... 89? I think that was one of the years we went up to the Rose fest. I’ll bet we were both there. Small world.


38 posted on 05/10/2011 2:57:30 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: freedumb2003
After Galveston was almost completely destroyed by the 1900 storm a seawall was built 16 or so feet high. The few houses that were left standing were jacked up and remember they had man power and mule power. The island was then raised up approx 16 feet. It had been only 4-6 feet above sea level. The sand was pumped up from the sea floor to raise the island.

My grandfather was a young carpenter who had just moved to Galveston from north Texas to work. He got work but not what he expected. He was one of the men who had to gather the dead bodies, between 6000 and 10,000 drowned and burn them on the beach.

After he was released from that he moved to Houston and built houses in Houstons newest subdivision, the Houston Heights. Look for a book called Issac's Storm, it was like hearing my grandfather tell his stories all over again. It was chilling.

39 posted on 05/10/2011 3:10:50 PM PDT by Ditter
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>>He was one of the men who had to gather the dead bodies, between 6000 and 10,000 drowned and burn them on the beach.<<

YIKES!! That no doubt haunted him for the rest of his days.

>>Look for a book called Issac’s Storm, it was like hearing my grandfather tell his stories all over again. It was chilling.<<

I will — or should I? I suspect it is riveting but disturbing, based on your summary of your Grandfather’s account...


40 posted on 05/10/2011 3:15:42 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (osama gets 72 virgins. We get 72 versions...)
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