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Lonely Rogue Worlds Surprisingly Outnumber Planets with Suns
Space.com ^ | 05/18/2011 | Mike Wall

Posted on 05/18/2011 8:47:19 PM PDT by Redcitizen

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To: EasySt

Bump for the best page I’ve seen in a while


81 posted on 05/19/2011 5:37:13 AM PDT by servantoftheservant
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To: EasySt

That is an awesome site!


82 posted on 05/19/2011 6:00:46 AM PDT by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: AZLiberty
My astronomer son, who’s skeptical about the rogue planets in the first place,

I suspect they are failed stars, like our own Jupiter...

83 posted on 05/19/2011 6:27:03 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 846 of our national holiday from reality. - OBL Dead? The TSA can go away!)
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To: I see my hands
As a lonely rouge world -by definition- could not be orbiting our sun or any other.

It would be red though...

84 posted on 05/19/2011 6:28:49 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 846 of our national holiday from reality. - OBL Dead? The TSA can go away!)
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To: UCANSEE2

Space itself is expanding, pretty much anywhere is the center, if it started at a point.

OTOH, the Magellanic Clouds pulse in and out orbiting a common center, an observer in one of the clouds taking a snapshot at the right time could conclude that it all had to start at a single point in the dim past.


85 posted on 05/19/2011 6:37:16 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 847 of our national holiday from reality. - OBL Dead? The TSA can go away!)
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To: muir_redwoods
Space time emerged from the big bang

Maybe it wasn't a bang, but a continuous low frequency hum.

The 'energy' to make the stars shine, and build new stars would need to be constant.

The same energy that holds the atoms together holds the galaxies together.

That energy source 'started up' and has been continuous ever since. Without it, the atoms dissemble and the Universe becomes a void without form.

The Big Bang provides no explanation for why new stars can be created after they burn out.

The reason most of our theories about the Universe stay theories, is because the are usually wrong, in one way or another.

Fifty years ago, we were completely sure that our Galaxy was THE UNIVERSE.

86 posted on 05/19/2011 7:13:38 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2
Not as small as you might think. One must remember, there are also an infinite number of planets and stars

Well...not infinite. Just a lot.

and they are all moving, and scientists now favor the idea that a wandering planet entered our solar system and crashed into at least one planet.

Sure, a typical wandering Jupiter-size planet will eventually wander close to a star...but the universe has only been around for 13.75 gigayears (give or take). Eventually most stars & planets in our galaxy will either drift towards the central black hole at the core, or be flung out of the galaxy altogether through gravitationally close encounters with other stars (a process called evaporation, IIRC). But this will take a long time, trillions to quadrillions of years.

The Earth is pelted with tons of space dust and ice crystals every day. Just because we don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Certainly...but we only get hit by something the size of the dinosaur-killer asteroid (about 5 to 10 miles wide) every couple of hundred million years on average.

87 posted on 05/19/2011 7:14:31 AM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: UCANSEE2
For those that believe in the Big Bang Theory, I ask that they point out the center of the Universe. The point in space where it all started. Show me that, and I’ll find the theory more believable.

There is no center. There is no "point" at which it all started. See http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html

88 posted on 05/19/2011 7:22:13 AM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: null and void
Space itself is expanding,

I guess it depends on one's interpretation of 'space', but I see no proof anywhere that 'space' is moving anywhere.

How can one measure the speed of objects in the Universe, if the Universe itself it moving ?

89 posted on 05/19/2011 7:28:06 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Yardstick
Homeless Planets at All Time High Under Obama

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90 posted on 05/19/2011 7:34:04 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: null and void
Even in a rotating black hole?

Well, a rotating black hole (one with angular momentum) would have a ring-shaped singularity instead of a point-shaped one...but you would still experience spaghettification. Interestingly, the larger the black hole the less severe the tidal forces you would experience as you approach it...they're more "spread out", so to speak. I believe you could actually approach the event horizon of the black hole at the core of the Milky Way (4.1 million solar masses, BTW) without being torn apart to you component particles.

You'd still be toast, of course :-)

If you'd like to read some novels that deal with this, check out the works of Stephen Baxter. Specifically, uch of his novel "Exultant" is set at the super-massive black hole at the core of the Milky Way.

91 posted on 05/19/2011 7:34:17 AM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: PastorBooks

I looked it up as well because it was not a familiar passage.

I think that would fall under the “[Dan] Rather true” scale of “fake but accurate”.


92 posted on 05/19/2011 7:36:58 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Abin Sur

Sorry I was so wordy and unclear.

Let me rephrase.

The amount of stars and planets in the known Universe is so large, and the Universe so large, that there are probably millions of such crashes every day. Somewhere.


93 posted on 05/19/2011 7:38:15 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2

Very philosophical - why SHOULD there be a “point” (or reason) to the universe if there isn’t a Creator?


94 posted on 05/19/2011 7:38:48 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Graybeard58
ignoring all evidence to the contrary

ah, but have YOU examined all evidence to the contrary showing a young universe? Are you even aware of such evidence?

95 posted on 05/19/2011 7:40:28 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: UCANSEE2
The Big Bang provides no explanation for why new stars can be created after they burn out.

The formation of new stars has nothing to do with the Big Bang. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_formation

Fifty years ago, we were completely sure that our Galaxy was THE UNIVERSE.

It's actually been almost 90 years since this has been shown not to be the case: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Hubble#The_Universe_goes_beyond_the_Milky_Way_galaxy

96 posted on 05/19/2011 7:40:48 AM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: UCANSEE2
The amount of stars and planets in the known Universe is so large, and the Universe so large, that there are probably millions of such crashes every day. Somewhere.

It's hard to assign a number, but there's no doubt that such collisions happen on regular basis when the universe as a whole is taken into account, yes.

97 posted on 05/19/2011 7:43:57 AM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Abin Sur
There is no center. There is no "point" at which it all started.

There is no expansion, either.

98 posted on 05/19/2011 7:44:20 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Abin Sur
The formation of new stars has nothing to do with the Big Bang.

Yet new stars are created every day, full of energy and life.

What creates them? Creation requires energy.

99 posted on 05/19/2011 7:52:48 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Abin Sur
It's actually been almost 90 years since this has been shown not to be the case:

When I typed that, I thought I was probably off on the years.

Thank you for correcting that. And for the conversation .

: )

100 posted on 05/19/2011 7:55:58 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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