Posted on 06/04/2011 4:01:19 PM PDT by TaraP
I see some AU reports for 6 & 2M out here in the PNW. Waiting for the AU curtain to get above the horizon down here in CN85uj. CUL
CANOPUS page is the best info on the AU oval IMO. There is a particular sound to the WWV 10mHz signal when the curtain moves south. GL es CUL
Cool!
hahahaha
Thanks, needed that.
Uh-oh, I’m almost afraid to look...
You forgot “hairdo”.
LOL.....
Looks postworthy! If you post something about the volcano, please ping me. Thanks!
I've forgotten how many miles for the crossover from the troposphere into the stratosphere - ???
HOwever, doesn't the ash from the Chilean volcanoes usually blow south - down the S. American coast?
I've forgotten how many miles for the crossover from the troposphere into the stratosphere - ???
HOwever, doesn't the ash from the Chilean volcanoes usually blow south - down the S. American coast?
Nothing in our area that I noticed.
We had a brief power outage, which is unheard of unless there are lightning strikes (and then it’s 100%).
I should have used the term “extent”, when referring to my point about science and the affects of solar-originated-electromagnetic events on weather.
I know that SOME scientists acknowledge the affects of solar-orginated-electromagnetic events on weather.
I think what does not yet have widespread agreement or supporting data is to what extent those affects are affecting long-term climate cycles - like our present-day “warming”.
That was the point I not so clearly tried to make.
It IS my belief that the solar events, and the Sun itself, are the “thermostat” setting variables for earth’s global atmospheric temperature in a much greater degree than CO2 or it’s ups and downs (at least for the last x millions of years).
What evidence do you have that we in fact are experiencing a Global Warming?
As recent as last winter and early spring it was very cold. It is not whether it is getting colder or warmer (those variances do take place and did before man burned hydrocarbons), but it is a fact that weather is more "variable" during sunspot minimums and maximums. The geomagnetic activity connection is less well understood but it does have an effect on the earth.
“What happened today is very similar to what happened with a CME and Solar Wind hitting earth’s magnetic field a couple days before the earthquake in Japan March 11th and the Christchurch quake Feb 15th....”
While many scientists accept that the solar wind and solar eruptions - including their electromagnetic components - do affect our weather, MOST scientists do not accept that the electromagnetic affects of these solar events is energetic enough to cause geologic changes or to trigger geologic events, nor do any scientists produce evidence for it.
Correlation - different variables occurring in a dataset in close proximity to each other in time or in equal force or measure - does not identify causation. Just because the man with the yellow hat was running past the store when the man with the blue hat was shot, does not make the man with the yellow hat the shooter. Correlation is not causation.
Look; I’m on your side. But, if you don’t quit importing meanings into terms that I have not put there, I soon won’t be.
“As recent as last winter and early spring it was very cold.”
All true. And a few years before that it was much warmer, at least where I live, and, as most of us in this area (believe) it was much cooler in the 1960s and 70s. No argument.
Is it also true that, in general, as the man-made global warming advocates want to claim (NOT ME, THEM), that the last century has not only been “warmer” but on a scale that “natural causes” alone would not have produced. Maybe.
BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT I AM SAYING, SO GET IT OUT OF YOUR HEAD THAT I AM.
“It is not whether it is getting colder or warmer (those variances do take place and did before man burned hydrocarbons), but it is a fact that weather is more “variable” during sunspot minimums and maximums.”
Whose arguing with that? Not I.
“The geomagnetic activity connection is less well understood but it does have an effect on the earth.”
BINGO. You and I are not arguing. You are reading code phrases and generating arguments that don’t exist.
My belief is that that affect is not only “less well understood”, but the extent of that affect (how big it is or may be) is not appreciated by some, ignored as a possibility by many and well documented by hardly anyone. I believe once science begins to understand and document it - the suns full affects -the anthropomorphic-centric views of climate change will have a harder time being resurrected.
Hmmm that is very interesting
Since the earth is a giant magnet, the huge magnetic field generated from a CME might create some oppositional forces similar to when you try to force the same poles of two magnets against each other. (or like trying to row a boat opposite the current in a river)
It might be too small to measure but over global scale it could have a big enough effect to jostle things a bit
It is dead. Even the proponents of man-made Global Warming know it is dead. The leaked e-mails and what followed exposed them for the frauds they are. There never was a consensus among Scientist about this bogus issue.
And it was NOT Russian hackers that released the e-mails, but a disillusioned true believer.
“It is dead.”
Unfortunately to too many Democrats, including the entire Obama administration, too many American “scientists” waiting to see if next year’s government grants will be renewed, too many in Europe, too many national reps on the UN’s ICCP, it is not dead.
We still have work to do.
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