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GOP’s Boehner embraces tax-raising plan
AP/Washington Times ^ | November 15, 2011 | David Espo and Andrew Taylor

Posted on 11/16/2011 2:15:08 AM PST by markomalley

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To: Go Gordon
“Soros allegedly pays a lower effective rate on his earnings than his secretary because of the types of earnings he has and all of the shelters.”

Unless you have a source to confirm that; I think you are confusing an example widely attributed to Warren Buffet NOT George Soros. The analogy was exposed as disingenuous because it was a comparison of Buffet's Capital Gains Taxes (taxes on investment profits made from money already taxed as income) with Buffet's secretary's Federal Income Tax. It's “apples and oranges” and, even then, the "math" only worked because Buffet pays himself a VERY small salary. Again, the vast majority of Buffet's wealth is accrued from his investments NOT his salary.

61 posted on 11/16/2011 4:54:47 AM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: Go Gordon
Raising revenues is not the same as raising everyone's tax rates.

Distinction with no difference. Because government does not generate revenue, they obtain it from those that do. Closing loopholes or raising tax rates achieve the same objective; providing government with more funds to spend wildly(See Solyndra).

62 posted on 11/16/2011 4:55:52 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: markomalley
Nonsense.

Closing loopholes has always been in the discussion...that is exactly what simplifying the tax code is about.

Boehner is saying nothing new.

63 posted on 11/16/2011 5:00:05 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: markomalley
This super-committee is unconstitutional and should fail.

There wiil be no cuts in anything.

But taxes will be raised.

And it takes 2/3 to defeat it, which means we can't stop it.

Boehner needs to step down in disgrace!

64 posted on 11/16/2011 5:02:36 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: MegaSilver
Raise tax revenues? How about close the loopholes that let multi-millionaires

That's exactly what this story is about. When you close loopholes, you DO raise revenues.

65 posted on 11/16/2011 5:03:56 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: goldstategop; sickoflibs
the income of every rich person in America was confiscated, it won’t make a dent in the deficit.

SSDD...i gladly pay you tuesday, for a hamburger today...

the stupor committee is holding the military hostage, as they wrangle for paper 'cuts' ten yrs out, so of course we must raise, *cough*, revenue today to 'pay' for that...

in my lifetime, theres been a mere handful of times that i can recall a politician being truthful while in office...words during campaigns ring even more hollow...and we are in an era of continual campaigning these days...

66 posted on 11/16/2011 5:17:30 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: markomalley
One minute he is LOVED on Free Republic and the next he is the villain. I always said that you can't trust him especially when the love fest is going on. I get blasted for it of course but it seems that I am correct.
67 posted on 11/16/2011 5:24:45 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: goldstategop

Maybe. No one really knows what the hell is going on or what will happen. The only thing I myself can take away from what I am seeing from those inside the beltway is they constitute the greatest concentration of totally useless, self aggrandizing as*holes to ever occupy any measurable geographic space on the entire planet.


68 posted on 11/16/2011 5:27:01 AM PST by 101voodoo
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To: markomalley

Gotta hand it to the dems... evil as they are, they stand their ground hard and don’t give an inch. I have a grudging admiration for their tenacity.

OTOH, I disdain the limp-wristed invertebrates in the GOP, who will always, at the end of the day, cave to pressure.


69 posted on 11/16/2011 6:09:04 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: 101voodoo
No one really knows what the hell is going on or what will happen. The only thing I myself can take away from what I am seeing from those inside the beltway is they constitute the greatest concentration of totally useless, self aggrandizing as*holes to ever occupy any measurable geographic space on the entire planet.

I totally agree... I'm getting disgusted with the entire bunch. They don't advocate for the American taxpayer...they advocate for themselves.

70 posted on 11/16/2011 6:12:36 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: markomalley

Read the headline too fast. Thought it said “GOP’s Boehner embraces TAN-raising plan.”


71 posted on 11/16/2011 6:14:11 AM PST by Betis70 (Bruins!)
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To: markomalley

So his RINO crap debt extension deal is playing out as we all knew it would.


72 posted on 11/16/2011 6:19:18 AM PST by Track9 (I walk better with a Cain.)
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To: All

This is from the AP/Washington times. It's propaganda designed to outrage the Republican base and turn them against their leaders. The more "the people" show outrage, the weaker the Republican party becomes - the lower their poll numbers get.

Be careful. Pay attention to the source. The MSM does this all the time. You're being "nudged. "

Wait until the real facts come out. "Trust, but verify."

73 posted on 11/16/2011 6:19:35 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: 101voodoo

Is this a flat tax? no. Not the same.


74 posted on 11/16/2011 6:19:59 AM PST by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: LZ_Bayonet

“Keep in mind that the extra income from this spending cut, i.e. elimination of tax breaks, would be offset by lowering all the individual tax rates.”

Huh?
What “offset”?
The end sum is that the govt reaps $300 BILLION in revenue

Since when is robbing Peter to pay Paul called an “Offset” (except maybe by Paul)


75 posted on 11/16/2011 6:24:52 AM PST by silverleaf (common sense is not so common)
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To: ilgipper

No it is not a flat tax but from what I see it is not a tax at all. rather it is a closing of loop holes which will increase taxes to be paid which is similar to what the flat tax or the Cain 9-9-9 plan does.


76 posted on 11/16/2011 6:34:04 AM PST by 101voodoo
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To: markomalley

(mho) ... There are reasons nobody in D.C. wants to simplify the tax code. Should the tax code be simplified to a post card type return, the IRS would lose power (a good thing), and accountants and tax lawyers would be out of a job. There is a huge industry of tax preparers, who would also be out of a job. There are upsides to reducing regulation within the tax code to create simplification, though those who hold the power of the purse, would rather exempt some and write more laws to increase their control over businesses and people rather than to allow freedom to slip into the system. After all, the system, is too big to relinquish power to those who pay the taxes (according to the system) ... at least this is what D.C. believes. Have heard this discussion of simplification of the tax code for over thirty five years. The discussion has always gone nowhere. Control (power) is something D.C. will never give up, and control and power come from controlling who pays and who does not pay taxes. (mho)


77 posted on 11/16/2011 6:36:36 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen. --> AmeriCain)
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78 posted on 11/16/2011 6:41:41 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-Free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: markomalley

What are the details on “revenue raising”?

Is it selling off federal assets, or is it auctioning oil drilling permits, or is it raising tax rates?

I want details before I condemn this action/position.


79 posted on 11/16/2011 6:42:33 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: ScottinVA

This can be TOTALLY solved with term limits, and I mean TOTALLY!!

One 4 or 6 year term with no hope of re election will get these scumbags to quit running for re election from the day they are sworn in and instead advocate for the people who put them there.

They should get NO retirement package at all pay for their health insurance like the rest of us do. In lieu of the golden parachutes these vermin now get I advocate a tax free salary of about 1.5-2.5 million annually out of which they pay ALL their own expenses as well as their immediate staffing needs.

This would amount to a huge overall savings to the tax payers since the ridiculous pensions and health benefits they and their families get forever would be eliminated.

The main benefit would be we would see exactly what these officials are all about because with no chance of re election they would be put in a position of not fearing doing what they believe is the RIGHT thing to do as opposed to doing what they may not agree with but which is being done to get re elected as they do now.


80 posted on 11/16/2011 6:42:36 AM PST by 101voodoo
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