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Study: CO2 may not warm the planet as much as thought
New Scientist ^
| 11/25/2011
| by Michael Marshall
Posted on 11/25/2011 5:29:44 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
All I can add to that headline is: No sh!t Sherlock.
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posted on
11/25/2011 5:33:21 PM PST
by
mc5cents
To: SeekAndFind; rdl6989; bamahead; Nervous Tick; SteamShovel; Tunehead54; golux; tubebender; ...
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posted on
11/25/2011 5:33:29 PM PST
by
steelyourfaith
(If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
To: SeekAndFind
Thought can warm the planet more than carbon dioxide?
(sorry, couldn't resist)
To: SeekAndFind
The climate may be less sensitive to carbon dioxide than we thoughtWhat is the "WE" stuff?
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posted on
11/25/2011 5:38:51 PM PST
by
Right Wing Assault
(Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
To: SeekAndFind
Climategate II damage control.
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posted on
11/25/2011 5:39:38 PM PST
by
SpaceBar
To: mc5cents
“All I can add to that headline is: No sh!t Sherlock.”
Perfect.....
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posted on
11/25/2011 5:40:15 PM PST
by
mike_9958
To: SeekAndFind
Water vapor is a larger greenhouse factor than CO2
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posted on
11/25/2011 5:40:24 PM PST
by
dennisw
(I heard the old man laughing What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having-Sting)
To: SeekAndFind
The “New Scientist” is a left-leaning eco-friendly publication. For them to admit even a bit that CO2 is not this generation’s chicken-little pollutant shows progress in having the truth reach a closed-mind audience. At some point they will have to conclude that they have bet on the wrong science and will have to admit that AGW skeptics were correct.
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posted on
11/25/2011 5:41:10 PM PST
by
CedarDave
To: SeekAndFind
“However, the finding comes from considering just one climate model, and unless it can be replicated using other models, researchers are dubious that it is genuine.”
Right ... running a computer model is the same as doing an experiment in the real world. Models can't be tweaked. Models are infallible — provided that two or more models produce the same answer. < /delusional warmist ravings
To: LibWhacker
“Thought can warm the planet more than carbon dioxide?”
Yes, but scientists still find there is very little warming. Hmmm....
To: SeekAndFind
Are you telling me this was a lie?
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posted on
11/25/2011 5:43:07 PM PST
by
South40
(Just say NO to amnesty. Say NO to Newt!)
To: SpaceBar
I'm off to light the charcoal grill and open a chilled carbonated beer from my 1970's frig right now.
Choke on that Algore!
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posted on
11/25/2011 5:43:28 PM PST
by
BobP
(The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
To: SeekAndFind
You don’t need a stupid study.
There is virtually NO CO2 in the atmosphere.
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posted on
11/25/2011 5:45:08 PM PST
by
ROCKLOBSTER
( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
To: Right Wing Assault
Lone Ranger: The climate may be less sensitive to carbon dioxide than we thought.
Tonto: What you mean "we", delusional paranoid warmist?
To: CedarDave
At some point they will have to conclude that they have bet on the wrong science and will have to admit that AGW skeptics were correct.They will never admit that. When the time comes, and they can no longer hold the fort, they will simply stuff the whole issue down the memory hole and, like the mad hatter's teaparty, just move on to the next place where they can create a whole new mess out of nothing.
To: SeekAndFind
However, the finding comes from considering just one climate model, and unless it can be replicated using other models, researchers are dubious that it is genuine. Hell, their computer models can't even predict today's climate, but any model that disagrees with theirs has to be held to an infinitely higher standard.
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posted on
11/25/2011 5:47:38 PM PST
by
E. Pluribus Unum
("The very idea of a community organizer is to stir up a mob for some political purpose." Ann Coulter)
To: SeekAndFind
Oh, these poor boobs. There's a ~60 year cycle,
believed to be astronomical in origin, that accounts for nearly all the warming between 1970 and 2000. The increase in CO2 since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution was triggered by the warming of the Medieval Climate Optimum.
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posted on
11/25/2011 5:47:47 PM PST
by
aruanan
To: hinckley buzzard
Yep. Just as they did with global cooling back in the Seventies...
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posted on
11/25/2011 5:49:49 PM PST
by
rlmorel
(The Rats won't be satisfied until every industry in the USA is in ruins and ripe for nationalization)
To: SeekAndFind; All
The best estimates say that if the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere doubles, temperatures will rise by 3 °C. This is the "climate sensitivity". My understanding is that the "climate sensitivity" refers to how much of a positive feedback they are assuming in the system. That is, they assume that adding some CO2 increases the amount of moisture which increases the temperature.
A number of researchers believe that the effect is exactly the opposite, that increasing the CO2 increases moisture which increases clouds, thus decreasing warming, that is, a negative feedback effect. Those researchers say this is much more likely, because we do not see small increases in CO2 causing a rapid acceleration in heating, which is what would happen with a positive feedback system.
It is my understanding that all the models the "climate change" crowd depend on have this positive feedback mechanism built into them. It is the only way they can produce the warming effects that they desire.
I have simplified things a good bit for brevity, but the essence is correct, I believe.
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posted on
11/25/2011 5:54:07 PM PST
by
marktwain
(In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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