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Ron Paul is striking chords with Iowa GOP voters
Miami Herald ^ | Monday, 12.12.11 | DAVID LIGHTMAN

Posted on 12/12/2011 5:06:42 PM PST by americanophile

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To: americanophile

I always respected Ron Paul, and I really like his son, Rand. But his comment about the Bush administration being “gleeful” after 9/11 to justify the Iraq war absolutely disqualifies him from any consideration for my vote. That was an outrageous, unforgivable lie. You can disagree with the policy but he went too far.


41 posted on 12/12/2011 6:04:46 PM PST by budj (beam me up, scotty...)
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To: heiss

Libertarian foreign policy is not isolationist. It is a defensive posture with trade with everyone. Libertarians will protect and defend the US but will not get involved in the wars of others. I can live with it.

The thought of this country having real Civil Defense again and real weapons and armorys and patroled borders and waters would gladden my heart.

The focus on freedom that libertarians provide would give our counrty the needed capital boost we need. The hatred of crony capitalism that libertarians have would clean out our governments.

I recommend the book by Charles Murry called WHY I AM LIBERTARIAN as well as the UNCLE ERIC SERIES.


42 posted on 12/12/2011 6:05:04 PM PST by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: heiss

“On foreign policy he is outright lunatic.”

Good thing only congress can declare war and approve treaties.


43 posted on 12/12/2011 6:05:52 PM PST by CJ Wolf (OMG - Obama Must Go!)
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To: budj

You missed the best part of that speech. He doubled down on the ‘gleeful’ comment with this:
“The PATRIOT Act was written many, many years before 9/11, the attacks simply provide an opportunity for some people to do what they wanted to do.”


44 posted on 12/12/2011 6:07:47 PM PST by mnehring
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To: dubie
Ron Paul. The perfect candidate http://youtu.be/kAulpWLZC2Y
45 posted on 12/12/2011 6:08:57 PM PST by dubie (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: heiss
I think you need to read some of the recent columns by Pat Buchanan. Wars almost never achieve their intended results. Japan posed no direct threat to the U.S.; they did threaten the moribund Euro. colonial powers in SE Asia. They fought us because we blocked their war effort against China and Russia. By eliminating Japan, we opened E. Asia to the Soviets (who launched the Korean War) and Maoist China. That was, in fact, the objective of the many Commies who infested the Roosevelt admin. In Europe, our supposed British allies were allegedly fighting to protect Poland, yet the war ended with Poland and all of E. Europe in the hands of the Soviets, who killed many times more people than Nazi Germany.

We've done it again. By eliminating Saddam Hussein, we opened up the Middle East to Iranian domination. As in the past, the eastern elitists led this disastrous policies. So who is it who doesn't "learn from history?"

46 posted on 12/12/2011 6:11:32 PM PST by hellbender
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To: twister881

With regards to Ron Reagan, i don’t think we will see anyone with his leadership ever again. Sad.


47 posted on 12/12/2011 6:13:30 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: Keith in Iowa
If RP wins, Iowa should NEVER get to be first in the nation with caucuses. The only chord RP strikes in me is a chord of discontent. Utter discontent. Foreign Policy MATTERS. RP’s positions are unacceptable.

Yeah, then probably you agree with this guy:

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48 posted on 12/12/2011 6:24:34 PM PST by pocat (In order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant)
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To: Chickensoup

I dont think he would bother, but I might check it out


49 posted on 12/12/2011 6:24:56 PM PST by 09Patriot (your freedom to be you, includes my freedom to be from you.--Wilkow)
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To: pocat

Lame meme. Lame.


50 posted on 12/12/2011 6:28:03 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: mnehring; budj
The PATRIOT Act was written many, many years before 9/11,

The PA was written during the Clinton years. A response to the Oklahoma City bombing.

To many of us, Clintons rein felt like many, many years.

51 posted on 12/12/2011 7:10:43 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: VicVega

RP foreign policy makes me Ill. however, his domestic policies are rock solid. I will vote for him in the primary and A B O in the general no matter what.


52 posted on 12/12/2011 7:12:19 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: 09Patriot

What do you expect? Look at his posting history— every other post is a rant about “globalist bankers” and other idiotic conspiracies. Libtards come in many flavors.


53 posted on 12/12/2011 7:18:28 PM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: americanophile

That’s a wide swing you got there. I don’t believe being “honest” with myself is taking Ron Paul serious.. he is a nutjob, and NO, I am not going to prove my allegation, there has been plenty on this forum, as you say.


54 posted on 12/12/2011 8:09:37 PM PST by gibsosa
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To: hellbender

re: GW and BO.

The progressive lite always paves the way for the name brand progressive.

We get Newt next (progressive lite) and the next name brand progressive will make BO look like Reagan.

Ron Paul’s position, although I don’t fully agree with his foreign policy...I pretty much agree with just about anything else he wants to do and the major changes he would like to see would only strengthen America in the long run.

Until we get back to liberty and individuals our country will never prosper.


55 posted on 12/12/2011 8:19:52 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: americanophile

Wonder if Iowa has been introduced to some of that kook’s racist nutty newsletters?

Do they listen to any of the conspiracy nut shows that the kook patronizes and how he encourages the crazies?

Are the people anxious to see drugs legalized?

Has Iowa learned that he believes North Korea and Iran are no threat?

Is the state of Iowa infected by nutcase truthers?

Have they read about his comment a few days ago: “Just think of what happened after 9/11. Immediately before there was any assessment there was glee in the administration because now we can invade Iraq,” Ron Paul Dec 8, 2011

Maybe Iowa doesn’t know that he’s nuttier than their Christmas fruitcake.


56 posted on 12/12/2011 8:48:47 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Keith in Iowa

“Unacceptable” is not a word I would use to describe RuPaul’s foreign policy.

I would use:

“suicidal”

“antisemitic”

“Chamberlain-esque”

There are a few others, but getting the ZOT! is not on my to-do list today.

:)


57 posted on 12/12/2011 8:56:03 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (NO COMPROMISE! NO RETREAT! NO SURRENDER! I AM A CONSERVATIVE! CASE CLOSED!)
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To: mnehring; 09Patriot
You sure do like to parrot those phrases like a good sheep don’t you?

Give him a break, he is a paulbot, he is not programmed to think for himself. He is only allowed to think in a way the surrender monkey allows him to think.
58 posted on 12/12/2011 11:17:52 PM PST by John D
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To: Big E

And what in all the time Cut and Run has been in Washington has he done, other than talk, blame every problem in the world on America and collect as many earmarks as possible,(the ones he says he is against?


59 posted on 12/12/2011 11:25:56 PM PST by John D
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To: Chickensoup
Libertarians will protect and defend the US but will not get involved in the wars of others

The surrender monkey would not defend America. He will only blame America for every problem in the world. He blamed America for 9/11. His foreign policy is appease, appease, and then appease some more. If that does not work just surrender.
Cut and Run is the Nevile Chamberlain of the 21st century.
60 posted on 12/12/2011 11:37:03 PM PST by John D
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