Posted on 10/29/2013 9:39:21 AM PDT by Eagle Bomba
“They were going to take his junky-ass van he’d been ignoring foreever.”
That’s why he started shooting. An unjustified taking of his property. I didn’t see anything in the ‘code’ referring to ‘rusty, junky-ass vans’. Under the ‘improve property values’ code what’s to stop them from bulldozing homes? Nothing.
IMO, not a spit’s worth of difference between the 2...”enforcement” is enforcement.
Degrees of escalation and all that comes with it.
And if the code “enforcers” weren’t so busy trampling on a
person’s private property rights over something as benign as an inoperable vehicle, we might not have a dead subject.
But I guess that’s ok since they were only “enforcing” the law. A law that pushed a man, who by all accounts, was quite mild mannered and pleasant, minding his own business over the edge.
I’m sorry, that’s not something I could live with...and the price just isn’t worth it.
Actually I was a Tuba player in ‘Southern Pride’. Long story.
“We’re”???
You’re the one who is positing all of the “what ifs” and you’re getting responses to those.
I don’t think anyone here has said shooting is a legitimate response to getting a vehicle towed away...I know I certainly haven’t.
There is a great street view of the van in question...and probably the dead guy on the porch.
Why in the world does the town care about this? That whole street is a dump.
Check out the link to the property.
The question becomes was shooting at police a reasonable response to having personal property towed away after years of neglect/complaints?
Obviously I would say no, but some people here see a much larger issue. And I respect that. If you're willing to die for this type of property dispute, then I respect that decision. And I say that with no sarcasm tag.
It’s mostly hidden behind a fence and a bush.
Just... Damn.
“My home values didn’t crash nearly as much as places where HOA Nazi’s and code enforcement Stasi run rampant.”
In FL many of the HOAs grossly impact the value of properties. Lol, there are many former upscale, gated communities that are at the core of the foreclosure blight. I get a perverse chuckle seeing all the foreclosures listed in these formerly 400K 1/2 acre, caged ‘estate’ HOAs.
Non-HOA properties command a significant premium in central FL. I got a deal on mine. 3.5 acres and a defunct HOA but one had to dig into the details to see the HOA was DOA. I easily paid 35% less than comparable non-HOA properties.
I agree that shooting at the police over an inoperable van being towed was quite extreme, with the ultimate consequence...however, this incident began because of code “enforcement” and his neighbors. Not the now dead subject.
At what point do neighbors get to decide what happens on your property and then have the ability to bring the full weight and measure of the government down upon you? Does an inoperable van meet that threshold?
Yes, that is a good thing!
Looking at the link provided above, there aren’t any neighbors that even have direct line of sight from him.
This seems like something malicious carried out with the thinnest of veils towards “community standards”.
Thanks Malusa!
That picture eliminates much conjecture about the scene of the “crime”
Wow... Skimming down the road looking at some of his neighbors properties, his house was the “nice” one on the block...
The van is practically invisible, covered by vegetation...what a mess over something as trivial as this.
Seriously? He was willing to kill people and/or die over an abandoned van but it was too much trouble to fix it?
I think this prophesy fulfilled itself.
A read through "Unintended Consequences" wouldn't have hurt either.
With what we know so far, agreed.
If it were a neighbor that precipitated this, which stands to reason. I hope they don’t get a night’s sleep for the rest of their miserable lives.
According to the street view, his closest neighbor is a railroad company with apparently an unused line (accross the street from him). Unless the other neighbors had a vendetta against him for some reason, they all appear to have had nothing to complain about, given the conditions of their properties.
Ounce again it’s proven who really owns the property you’ve paid for.
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