[sunmars]

I guess there will be more of these now. No escaping it.

[Red in Blue PA]

Hang the bastards in DC and the CDC for lying to the people.

[junta]

Or basically a no doubt semi-literate family from Africa (the apartment) had better procedures than our vaunted “FIRST WORLD HEALTH CARE SYSTEM” aint that special.

[PAR35]

Looks like Baghdad Bob is using anonymous minions this time.

[PGalt]

Thanks for posting. Health/life BTTT!

http://blogs.cdc.gov/cdcdirector/2014/10/02/why-u-s-can-stop-ebola-in-its-tracks/

For all healthcare workers…(from the cdc link above)…

112. October 14, 2014 at 2:24 pm ET - Lawrence Herbst

Dear Dr. Freiden,

I recognize that the CDC has no enforcement authority. However its recommendations and guidance obviously carry great weight. As I read the CDC’s recommendations for health care worker precautions in caring for patients with ebola infection, I am concerned regarding the lack of rigor in making specific recommendations for the types of personal protective equipment (PPE) and procedures for doffing and donning PPE. Ebola is a CDC-BMBL Biosafety level-4 agent. CDC should at least be strongly recommending Biosafety-level 3 PPE!

Recommendations posted on the CDC website (most recent dated June 2014) recommend gloves, mask, water resistant gown, face shield. However, given the high infectious titer in fluids (Emesis, urine, fecal, blood) and potential for environmental persistence for days in moist organic matter, as well as low infectious dose, I would hope, that you are upgrading the recommendations and will post them quickly. Meanwhile I respectfully urge the CDC to strengthen its recommendations as follows:

1. All recommendations should be “musts” [statements such as extra precautions might be considered are just useless!]

2. All gloving procedures should be double glove procedures with outer gloves decontaminated (bleach) and removed first and then the last pair removed after all other PPE. Gloves should be taped to the cuffs of the gown.

3. All gowns should be complete coverall types with integrated shoe covers (Tyvek jumpsuits) to cover any clothing that would continue to be worn after leaving the patient’s room!. Why: Because high titer fluids (vomit, blood, urine) splashed onto surfaces (bedrails, floor) may contaminate shoes, pant legs, etc.

4. Masks should be something better than surgeons masks (these are designed to protect the patient from the HCW more than vice versa). N95 at least is designed for wearer protection from droplet exposure (and required for BSL-3 agents!!!- ebola is level 4!!!).

5. All PPE should be sprayed with disinfectant prior to exiting the room. A buddy should be required to assist with donning and doffing PPE. The advantage of a full jumpsuit is that it can easily be rolled inside out (contaminated side inward) as it is removed.

I sincerely hope that the CDC is already making ungraded recommendations based on the unfortunate virus transmissions to nursing staff in Texas and Spain. In my opinion it is not particularly useful to evaluate “accidents” by assuming that an existing SOP would have been 100% effective, if only it had been properly followed. We are wiser to examine this from the perspective that the SOP was followed perfectly and that maybe this virus is not behaving exactly as we expect and then find ways to improve the SOP. Cost of implementing enhanced PPE that is closer in line to BSL-3 / 4 may be more expensive, but those suggested above are not that expensive!

Our understanding of ebola virus transmission is based on only a few decades experience and a small number of self-limiting outbreaks in that time. This outbreak may be different and our PPE recommendations should respect the fact that we do not know everything about this virus and its behavior in human populations.

[LS]

No concerns. Just a breach of protocol.

[Sir Napsalot]

In light of this, CDC head honcho’s sort-of apology yesterday is so inadequate.

Wonder how the community organizer turned CDC chief can keep his job.

[Organic Panic]

I pray for these people.

And I loathe the family of whores Jesse Jackson is pimping out to call these hospital workers racists for treating their departed Uncle Duncan.

[Guenevere]

Bttt

[Skepolitic]

How’s that Hope’n’Change working out?

Obama sure has delivered on the latter, but now there seems to be a hope deficit.

Dr. Tom Friesen is certainly plumbing the depths of tone-deaf bureaucratic incompetence that haven’t been seen since Michael Brown’s FEMA tenure.

[two23]

The results of our country being stolen by America-hating Commie Oragnizers.
Dems own this. No matter how much they LIE and blame..this may be the end of their utopian dream.

[PghBaldy]

152 replies before 8am... This is bad news, and normal people realize it.

[RayChuang88]

Maybe this will finally force the Federal Inspection Service to act and immediately ban anyone boarding a plane bound for the USA that has spent time in the most affected areas of this dreaded disease. Fortunately, unlike the affected countries, here in the USA medical help is reasonably good enough that even the nurse that was originally infected could actually survive, mostly because of access to a number of experimental medications now in field trials.

[newnhdad]

so the CDC guy lied by omission last night.

[TexasFreeper2009]

Good Grief!

Obama is going to kill us all with his incompetence!

(if Only Obama and Biden had thought to prove there was no chance of catching it by visiting Duncan themselves!)

[Joe Boucher]

No way man,
Our magic freaken negro assured us ebola won’t come to America
And this jive ass mooselimb punk would never lie to us now would he?
Stupid fag quota boy

[greedo]

Americans should have known that the democrats' #1 most urgent healthcare issue is…  not Ebola. http://www.debbiewassermanschultz.com/tag/lgbt/

bump

[AJFavish]

See below for the link to Dr. Gupta’s demonstration, and then compare to Obama’s CDC Director Tom Frieden’s defense of the CDC protocol demonstrated by Dr. Gupta. Go to 4:35 into the video to hear Dr. Frieden answer the question from Megyn Kelly as to whether the CDC protocol is sufficient. He says it is sufficient.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3839649788001/cdc-director-our-information-is-clear-and-correct/?playlist_id=2694949842001#sp=show-clips

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/10/13/ac-sot-gupta-ebola-hazardous-material-suits.cnn.html

Watch in horror as Dr. Sanjay Gupta of CNN demonstrates why the CDC protocol for removing protective clothing after being in the presence of Ebola is deeply flawed. The protocol does not require all of the body to be protected. The protocol does not require being treated with bleach before the clothing is removed. The protocol involves the person removing the suit to perform awkward and imprecise movements that will definitely lead to exposure in some cases.

[RetSignman]

The first airline that puts a sign up in terminals WORLDWIDE that WE DON’T FLY INTO AFRICA OR ALLOW BOARDING OF PASSENGERS FROM ANY CONNECTING FLIGHTS OUT OF AFRICA UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE, will become the ‘go to’ airline.

[DouglasKC]

So far it's on track. Most patients infect at least 2 others or so. Whatever happened to the family of Clark? No interviews? No "good news they don't have Ebola!". Just silence.

I'm starting to think it's much much worse then they're letting on.

[RetSignman]

OK, it's time to replace Freiden with a REAL expert.