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Co-pilot of doomed Russian jet had doubts about plane's safety, wife says
Fox News ^ | November 01, 2015 | Fox News

Posted on 11/01/2015 2:13:05 AM PST by WhiskeyX

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To: Cowboy Bob

Only flew in them a few times but it was noticeable that my ears didn’t pop on ascent and descent, which I interpreted to mean the plane held sea level pressure at high altitude. In other words, fuselage built like Siberian brick s#!+house! The problem as I understand it with the old Soviet era planes were the engines. Now that they’re flying Airbus the problem would be maintenance of typically fine tuned and unforgiving European engineering. Throw in flying out of an airport where the ground support are Arabs (Egypt employs their own, not technically proficient Asian labor) and you’re going to multiply the problems.


21 posted on 11/01/2015 4:00:37 AM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: WhiskeyX

Should he have beem complaining to someone else ?


22 posted on 11/01/2015 4:03:26 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: WhiskeyX

ISIS have released a video now which would seem to support the claim that they took it down. Very tragic.


23 posted on 11/01/2015 4:03:32 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

So far it appears to be a hoax. ISIS in the Sinai would not have a means to down the aircraft from its high altitude unless an onboard bomb had been used. Investigators so far have indicated the wreckage shows no sign of such an explosion, and the pilot radioed an emergency call citing technical difficulties that is usually inconsistent with a catastrophic explosion.


24 posted on 11/01/2015 4:10:52 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

I hate Airbus planes.

I’ve probably flown a million miles and the worst flight I’ve had based on perceived mechanical integrity was an Air Italia AB 319 in 1991.

Horrendous gear grinding sound at take off, which I attributed to an APU.

I was very thankful when we landed in Ljubljana Yugoslavia, to change flights for London.

....until I discovered we’d be flying the same plane with a different flight number....

I asked the flight attendant if they’d fixed that horrible noise.

She smiled and said.....”It’s ok, it goes away after take off.”......


25 posted on 11/01/2015 4:20:20 AM PST by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: WhiskeyX

Isis says they did it.
Russians scoff at that claim.
FOX says it just crashed due to a systems failure of some sort.
Obama regime was talking about combat troops not being really combat troops.

Now the big question is, which liar is lying?
Well, with the Obama regime in the mix, which two.


26 posted on 11/01/2015 4:26:10 AM PST by Tupelo (Honest men go to Washington, but honest men do not stay in Washington.)
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To: Candor7

“The A/C was likely brought down by an internal bomb, either a suicide bomber or a barometric bomb, or a surface to air missile, so the maintenance condition of the A/C is somewhat moot.”
Unless the damn tail fell off, which has been known to happen to various Airbus models.
If it aint Boeing, I aint going!!


27 posted on 11/01/2015 4:38:35 AM PST by 9422WMR ("Ignorance can be cured by education, but stupidity is forever.")
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To: WhiskeyX
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28 posted on 11/01/2015 4:41:34 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Tupelo

Until the crash investigators can piece together the evidence no one can know what caused the aircraft to crash. Even if you wanted to speculate that ISIS knew they had placed a bomb aboard the aircraft, they would have no way of knowing whether the bomb or a technical fault caused the crash before the bomb could detonate. All of the reports about the cause of the crash we are currently seeing amount to nothing more than speculation, with some of the speculation being totally uninformed and some of the speculation being fairly well informed. A surface-to-air missile (SAM) leaves some quite obvious shrapnel evidence, so the absence of such shrapnel evidence usually will rule out the crash being caused by a SAM or an air-to-air intercept missile (AIM) fired from a fighter aircraft.

Likewise a large internal explosion due to an onboard bomb will typically cause the fuselage to rupture in an outwards direction and leave residues from the explosive all over the objects where the explosive was placed.

So, it does no good to falsely accuse these sources of giving false conclusions for the cause of the crash, when in fact no one is doing anything more than speculating on the incomplete evidence seen so far.


29 posted on 11/01/2015 4:46:32 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Obadiah

“What next, the aircraft was brought down by a YouTube video?”

That possibility has already been explored. The MSM is currently checking to see if global warming and cancer causing pork could have done it.


30 posted on 11/01/2015 4:46:56 AM PST by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: BullDog108

I flew on a now defunct airline out of Indianapolis many years ago. Their plane was a Shorts Brothers high wing constructed of plywood. After we got on board, a ground crew guy duct taped the door closed.


31 posted on 11/01/2015 4:55:25 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: WhiskeyX

It is all speculation, and the video may well be fake...however, they are recovering bodies from a several mile radius, which would mean that the plane broke up before hitting the ground. The first body was that of a little girl, found about 3 miles from the crash site, and they have since then expanded the search radius to 9 miles.


32 posted on 11/01/2015 5:03:03 AM PST by livius
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To: BullDog108

Did a bit of flying in Russia myself awhile back. Did you ever land at Sheremeteyov in the mid 90’s? Duct tape everywhere...


33 posted on 11/01/2015 5:14:56 AM PST by MarMema
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To: WhiskeyX

“So, it does no good to falsely accuse these sources of giving false conclusions for the cause of the crash, when in fact no one is doing anything more than speculating on the incomplete evidence seen so far.”

Sorry pal, I accuse no one. All I said was liars lie and all of us, well most of us know ISIS, the Russians and FOX (and the other media) are liars of the first order and the question is, which one.

Sheesh. Some peoples kids.
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34 posted on 11/01/2015 5:25:00 AM PST by Tupelo (Honest men go to Washington, but honest men do not stay in Washington.)
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To: mazda77

Of course, you have zero facts to back up your bias. The fact is, Airbus as a designer and manufacturer, has an excellent record in the thirty year history of the A320 series.


35 posted on 11/01/2015 5:26:36 AM PST by Tzfat
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To: mazda77
"It was very early yesterday that I saw the flight altitude chart recorded and all of a sudden, it fell like a rock."

Even if both engines fail shouldn't it be able to glide?

36 posted on 11/01/2015 5:27:03 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: G Larry
Horrendous gear grinding sound at take off, which I attributed to an APU.

APU? The PTU shares one letter with APU, but even there you would be wrong because the PTU only kicks in at gear retraction if there is insufficient hydraulic pressure. So even if you heard it, you only heard it once in a thousands of takeoffs. And the very same system is on Boeing 737 so, I'm sure you've heard it there too?
37 posted on 11/01/2015 5:32:08 AM PST by Tzfat
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To: Candor7
The government of Ukraine called for islamists in Syria to kill Russians

Somebody might have agreed

Murdering a plane load of Russian tourists, mostly women ( and 17 children) would be considered a great military victory by either party

38 posted on 11/01/2015 5:32:21 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Fake video

Aircraft isn’t even the right color much less at 33,000 feet

But suitable for cheers on the arab street


39 posted on 11/01/2015 5:34:57 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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40 posted on 11/01/2015 5:35:44 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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