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The UT Tower Shooting, 50 Years Later
texasstandard.org ^ | 7/22/2016 | Laura Rice

Posted on 07/23/2016 6:07:46 PM PDT by Elderberry

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To: WENDLE

My co-worker was a student at UT at the time, he was supposed to take a class at UT during the shooting but his German class ended up meeting at the German restaurant and bar so that was fortunate.


61 posted on 07/23/2016 9:04:35 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

I still think about it at every mass killing. The taking of innocent life is so senseless and satanically evil, I still cannot get my brain around it. My Daughter in law bought me an original copy of the life magazine dedicated to the shooting. I could not read it. I tried 3 times.


62 posted on 07/23/2016 9:10:28 PM PDT by WENDLE ( Donald John Trump is the greatest AMERICAN since George Washington !)
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To: PLMerite; al baby

“I had to go and check...[Brian Williams] was six.”

I ws going to say... lol


63 posted on 07/23/2016 9:11:04 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: MinorityRepublican

By the way , I know where the German language classes were , between Little field fountain and the tower. It was a free fire zone for whitman. Maybe 150 yards) I guess they went to Scoltz’s that early for lunch and beer. He opened fire about 11:50 ( I think) . It was horribly hot and humid. I remember 17 dead and 37 wounded but it was so long ago. One pregnant student shot in the stomach. Killed both mother and child. He killed his wife and mother in law before he hauled all his crap in a trunk to up the tower. He had flunked an architecture exam and it set him off. They said he had a brain tumor but I never believed that.


64 posted on 07/23/2016 9:20:44 PM PDT by WENDLE ( Donald John Trump is the greatest AMERICAN since George Washington !)
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To: WENDLE

Yeah, I think my co-worker mentioned Scoltz’s. He was a real lucky Guy. I feel for you, those mass shooting events are just senseless and innocent people had to die and they had nothing to do with the life of the shooter. So why all the rage and take it out at them?


65 posted on 07/23/2016 9:23:54 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: yarddog
Whitman left a message that he wanted to have an autopsy done to see if he had a brain tumor. They did find one and then had the audacity to say it did not contribute to his insanity

Apparently this was later revised. A commission of top-flight experts re-examined the tumor and concluded it cold have contributed to Whitman's actions, but the science of the time could not say for sure. It would be interesting if this could be looked at again in the light of new knowledge of the brain that has been gained in the last 50 years.

Wikipedia points out that Whitman gave warning of what might happen:

"Whitman met with Maurice Dean Heatly, the staff psychiatrist at the University of Texas Health Center, on March 29, 1966. Whitman referred to his visit with Heatly in his final suicide note. He said, "I talked with a Doctor once for about two hours and tried to convey to him my fears that I felt come [sic] overwhelming violent impulses. After one visit, I never saw the Doctor again, and since then have been fighting my mental turmoil alone, and seemingly to no avail."...

Dr. Heatly's notes on the visit reflected Whitman's own comments about feeling hostility:

"This massive, muscular youth seemed to be oozing with hostility [...] that something seemed to be happening to him and that he didn't seem to be himself.

Dr. Heatly also referred to a statement by Whitman:

"He readily admits having overwhelming periods of hostility with a very minimum of provocation. Repeated inquiries attempting to analyze his exact experiences were not too successful with the exception of his vivid reference to 'thinking about going up on the tower with a deer rifle and start shooting people'."

66 posted on 07/23/2016 9:29:03 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: All

THE ‘UT’ was founded in Tennessee 42 years before they figured out they were supposed to be pronouncing the ‘X’ in Texas.


67 posted on 07/23/2016 11:05:38 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: DAC21
Seems to me Kurt Russell played the killer in the TV movie.

Your memory is correct, he did...

the infowarrior

68 posted on 07/23/2016 11:19:27 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: 22202NOVA
said, "I’m pretty sure no one called 911 in 1966"

They had "0" for operator. They answered fairly fast.

69 posted on 07/23/2016 11:52:38 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: 22202NOVA
I’m pretty sure no one called 911 in 1966, since the system didn’t get approved until 1968. Then again, maybe they were on hold for a really long time.

911 was possible as a working number at that time. But all it would do was call the police much like 411 called Information. It gave no information as to where someone was at it just connected to the police station and the person at the station had to ask who, what, where, when, how, etc. The call would have been recorded as all calls to police was recorded in larger cities at that time.

The system which came later that did that automatically from the development of the ESS {Electronic Switching System} which replaced the mechanical relay operated Central Office at the TELCO.

E-911 is that system. E if I remember correctly meant Enhanced 911. It is a data system which at least in the early days of E-911 when you called the identifying information came from a database in Florida and was sent back to the local 911 operator.

ESS Central Offices were not coming into service until the 1970's. My local Central Office a small one was among the first where ESS was installed. My dad was a 45 year TELCO tech and worked on E-911 and other data circuits in his last few years before retirement. Before that he worked in a mechanical switching long distance equipment office known then as 4A. When 4A's were converted to ESS he went outside.

70 posted on 07/24/2016 12:22:19 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Fiddlstix

Post 70 911 may have existed in Dallas but not in the sense we know it today. A three digit number was certainly possible because 411 was Information. Dallas could have had 911 as a short cut to the police to save time going through a TELCO operator. TELCO’s back then also had customized two digit prefix numbers to call into another nearby phone exchange without it being a toll call.


71 posted on 07/24/2016 12:35:23 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bl911.htm Feb 1968 was the first 911 system and it would have been simply an answer center. E-911 came later.


72 posted on 07/24/2016 12:47:12 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: MinorityRepublican
...his German class ended up meeting at the German restaurant and bar...

OT but had to say that's the best place to learn German, IMO.

As to Whitman, I was 11 y/o that summer but remember the coverage, especially the pictures of those crouching behind autos to brace their rifles and fire up at the tower. To a small-town Kansas kid that hadn't traveled much, Texas seemed like a very foreign place in that moment.

73 posted on 07/24/2016 1:24:45 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: montag813

According to Major John L. Plaster, USAR (RET), in his textbook “The Ultimate Sniper”, Whitman engaged targets beyond 1000 yards using his Remington 700 in 6mm Remington.

Plaster provides a map showing Whitman’s position and plots his targets (wounded and killed). One fatal victim, marked with a bit “X”, measures at what appears to be 1400 yards.

Not “four hundred yards”, rather “fourteen hundred yards”.


74 posted on 07/24/2016 1:59:46 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: 22202NOVA

Same as what I was thinking. Quick internet search found that the first 911 call was by Alabama Senator Rankin Fite on Feb 16, 1968.


75 posted on 07/24/2016 4:44:09 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: yarddog; null and void

There was a rumor about a tumor
Nestled at the base of his brain.
He was sittin’ up there with a .36 magnum,
Laughin’ wildly as he bagged ‘em.
Who are we to say the boy’s insane?

— The Ballad of Charles Whitman, by Kinky Friedman and his Texas Jewboys

I might have misquoted a word or two, but it’s probably on Youtube somewhere, if anyone wants to check.


76 posted on 07/24/2016 5:22:54 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Elderberry

“very complicated reasons”

Not complicated at all.

Evil heart.

Anti-White racism.

Black race-baiting hustlers.


77 posted on 07/24/2016 7:16:16 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: PLMerite

Born journalist. . .he was there, right when it counted.

;-)


78 posted on 07/24/2016 7:18:36 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Rushmore Rocks
Gov Hogg only had one daughter, Ima. (But you knew that). ; )
79 posted on 07/24/2016 7:21:06 AM PDT by Ditter (God Bless Texas!)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

“McCoy’s blast from a 12-gauge shotgun hit Whitman in the face, and, according to the autopsy, the fatal wounds were to Whitman’s head and heart. . .Martinez also grabbed McCoy’s shotgun and shot Whitman one more time as he lay on the ground.”

Imagine that happening today. . .the screams of outrage by the bed-wetting democRATS and Bernie snowflakes. . .in other words, the MSM.


80 posted on 07/24/2016 7:26:51 AM PDT by Hulka
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