Posted on 10/13/2017 10:15:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Everything should be free. The rich can pay for it.
Why do Canadians come to the US for MRI’s? Because it takes months to get an appointment for one where in the US it’s a matter of days or a few weeks.
You can add routine colonoscopies to that list. A Canadian friend said you can’t get one in Canada unless you have a family history of colon cancer.
I used to live in Michigan, about 30 miles from the border.
At the time our sales tax was 4%. Canadians would come over to go shopping and load-up on piles of stuff which they would smuggle home.
Having their cake and eating it too.
Waiting 6 months or more to see a specialist is pretty common... They’re likely calculating that a percentage of patients will expire and thus save them the high cost of treating serious illnesses.
To many horror stories of people made to wait who die or whose injuries become worse while waiting for “free” care in Canada. The stories about how great everything is in Canada show up because obamacare is going away.
Remember to pay for heathcare in England they kill 130,000 people a year. Search on Liverpool Care Pathway or liverpool pathway scandal
Need an MRI? Wait 109 days in Ontario or, for $700, get it tonight in Michigan
https://www.durhamregion.com/community-story/3462947-need-an-mri-wait-109-days-in-ontario-or-for-700-get-it-tonight-in-michigan/
Canadian patients help bottom line at local MRI providers
Hundreds of patients cross the border each year for MRI and CT scans in Western New York, avoiding wait times back home that can exceed 100 days.
https://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/news/2017/09/29/canadian-patients-help-bottom-line-at-local-mri.html
Medical body scans attracting Canadians to the U.S
See the low low prices for MRI scans!
http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/medical-body-scans-attracting-canadians-to-the-u-s-1.2030209
Crossing the Border for Care
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2016-08-03/canadians-increasingly-come-to-us-for-health-care
My father in law, a German National, had a heart attack in 1996. He waited four months for his bypass. My neighbor here in the US had a heart attack last week. She had a bypass that day.
The difference was this:
in Germany, like all national health care system, there is a budget for every conceivable illness. The budget states how many bypass operation can be performed each month. Wait your turn.
In the US, your contract with an insurance company obligates the company to provide a service like a bypass without regard to their budget.
Ontario is looking to tax employee discounts next. It will happen in the land of sheep.
Critical care in Canada is ok, but many other aspects of the healthcare system are substandard. If you have acute appendicitis, need Cancer treatment or are seriously injured in a car crash, the system responds quite well to your needs. Family medicine is very poor and many people cannot find a doctor. Non-critical surgery (hip and knee replacements, heart by-pass, cataracts) can take many months of waiting. And access to diagnostic imaging and consultations with specialists also involve lengthy waiting lines. The issue in Canada isn’t whether people should have access to government health care (that battle was lost 50 years ago), but the denial of the right to access private healthcare if you have the money to go that route. If the Communist Chinese and Vietnamese have a private health care system why can’t we?
Not a thing he posted would have been different under the US health system pre obozo care
He lives in a place where he has access to a doc. Ask the folks in the western provinces how well it works. You will find them in US hospitals paying out of pocket to have their health care needs met
I’ve known a number of Canadians that have this attitude - Canada is great and America sucks.
Must be nice to live under the umbrella of American security. How much do they spend on their military again?
Most countries also demand lower costs for pharmaceuticals otherwise they’ll just let somebody make a generic version. So we, effectively, subsidize the global development of new drugs.
These universal programs usually work for a while but become increasingly problematic. The British NHS is stretched beyond thin and now has large shortages of doctors, importing lower quality doctors from around the world.
That said, I’m unsure what the answer is. Sometimes I wonder if health care costs should be proportional to your income/assets, but I hate the idea that the government always thinks it can take more from you just because you have it (violation of private property rights).
Does that answer it ?
I have gout also but that scenario would be no different in Canada (where I have lived). Consultation, go to lab (down the hall, often), then to pharmacy. No difference. It’s the big, expensive, limited availability labs like MRI Imaging that have the long wait times.
Eh, I have plenty of opposing experiences.
Went to my General Practioner March of some yeat. He set up an appointment with a specialist in November.
I phoned the Specialist office to confirm my November appointment.
After some confusion, I realized my appointment was for November of the next year, NOT November of the current year!
Eh, wait 20 months to see a Specialist! Whadda want, it’s free
RE: Eh, wait 20 months to see a Specialist! Whadda want, it’s free
Yes, but if you had an emergency situation, like a bypass needed, you would have been seen ASAP, am I right? And it’s for free too.
RE: Not a thing he posted would have been different under the US health system pre obozo care
I never had this condition so I never found out — Question, if you had a pre-existing condition, what would happen to you pre-Obamacare?
Oh, yeah? When's that going to start?
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