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The Tipping Point
Townhall.com ^ | Dec 16, 2017 | Congressman Marsha Blackburn

Posted on 12/15/2017 9:38:29 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

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To: Oshkalaboomboom

“It will not, however, expose the victims’ names. If they want to step forward, that is their choice.”

As a society, we are trying to figure out what standards of evidence (if any) to apply to these cases. “Beyond a reasonable doubt” may be too high. “Preponderance of evidence” may also be too demanding a standard. “Story sounds plausible” is too low. But a separate issue is whether the accused gets a chance to confront the accuser and try to refute the charges. In my opinion, anonymous denunciations are inherently dangerous. It may be hard, but if you have a problem, you have to step forward and make your case publicly. Those (and there may be many) who are too weak or too afraid to defend themselves may wind up without effective redress, and I feel sympathy for anyone in that situation. I don’t know any answer for them except to encourage them to be strong and stand up for themselves in the face of what amounts to bullying, or to accept their fate in silence if they can’t. Anonymous charges are too prone to abuse to be a workable answer.

Ryan Lizza, a major writer for the New Yorker lost his job with them, plus his teaching job at Georgetown University, plus his appearances on CNN and MSNBC all in one morning due to allegations from a woman who shielded her identity and made her charges through her attorney. We can’t know who she is and his career goes from great to non-existent in no time at all and without any due process that I can see. He may richly deserve it, but we have no way of knowing.


21 posted on 12/16/2017 4:38:24 AM PST by Stirner
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To: Adder

I have been in the professional world for almost 30 years. I literally have no idea whT these idiots are talking about. Never been touched, commented to, harassed, etc... in fact I MUCH prefer working with men to women- who are catty, annoying and cause unwanted drama in the workplace. In fact, my only negative encounters in the workplace have been with other women- never men!


22 posted on 12/16/2017 4:55:14 AM PST by usmom
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To: usmom

Wouldn’t it be funny if that burka clad one was a naked man and a flasher?


23 posted on 12/16/2017 5:20:54 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: House Atreides

Marsha Blackburn is my Rep and she sure will get my vote next year to become my Senator. She always represented my town and county very well. I am convinced she will continue to do so as Senator. Unlike that RINO that she is replacing


24 posted on 12/16/2017 5:33:17 AM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: What Is Truth?)
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To: Kaslin

I got a money request letter from Marsha yesterday. I guess I’ll send her some money

Tennessee is a Republican state and so far the GOPe candidate has not come forward. As a general rule,Marsha cannot win because she is not sufficiently Republican


25 posted on 12/16/2017 5:38:38 AM PST by Thibodeaux (2018 is looking good)
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To: Thibodeaux

So did I, and so will I.


26 posted on 12/16/2017 5:55:08 AM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: What Is Truth?)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Yeah, sure. And what about the women who falsely accuse men?


27 posted on 12/16/2017 6:00:42 AM PST by I want the USA back (*slam is not a religion. It is a political movement to establish a religion.)
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To: GOPJ

Dress codes, ethics and moral codes and office rules need to be reviewed or overhauled.

With the ignorance of and the loss of the desire to lead a Christian life, all day long, the virtues are neither taught nor sought, and evidently not practiced. Therefore, the unchurched or the non-practicing are behaving as heathens will behave.

The gang assault on men all at once by career climbing, publicity seeking women, with their decades old tales of “harassment” seems organized, perhaps Alinsky inspired.

PS: For your ping list, please.

Sunday night, at 9 PM Eastern, CSPAN II, After Words Program,
Author, Keith Koffler, BANNON: Always the Rebel, will be interviewed by Louie Gomert.


28 posted on 12/16/2017 6:01:09 AM PST by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public education & academia= the farm team for more Marxists coming, infinitum.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

You’re quite right. But, surely, this tax payer funded slush fund was not by vote. There are insurance policies to be taken out in the light of day aren’t there?


29 posted on 12/16/2017 6:08:07 AM PST by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public education & academia= the farm team for more Marxists coming, infinitum.)
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To: DesertRhino

Not sure I understand your post on this thread-—

However, IF your car is older, you may need to check & see if using Synthetic oil is OK. Newer cars have tighter clearances in the moving parts of the engines & they use synthetic oil.

Older cars have a larger clearance, and synthetic oil doesn’t work for them. Ask an engine builder——NOT an auto parts sales counter person.


30 posted on 12/16/2017 6:26:45 AM PST by ridesthemiles (uen)
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To: usmom

Same for me- but for a much longer time—over 60 years.

The biggest part that is bothering me is that “None of the Congressional Leaders knew about these taxpayer payouts”.

I find that very difficult to believe.

SOOOO—ALL of the persons who needed these payouts were ALL not high up in Congressional halls? Only the lowly?

I am not buying that, either.

Thee was a vote to create both of these “Offices” & there had to be a vote to hire staff & a vote for a budget.

Either members of Congress are voting willy-nilly for spending taxpayer money or they are trying to cover up for themselves.

Every single aspect of this has to be exposed.

IMO, this is bigger than Watergate because it involves far more people & is a rip off of taxpayer money.

Heads should roll, and I want both Paul Ryan & Mitch McConnell on the hot seats—along with prior Speakers of the House & Senate leaders.

IF they did not know of these payouts-—does that mean there is a SHADOW GOVERNMENT within Congress itself—doing as it pleases with taxpayer money???

As a life long bookkeeper/accounting person, this is embezzlement. I want charges brought & every single person who got money paid out in heir behalf exposed, kicked out of Congress, and they all must pay the monies back with interest.


31 posted on 12/16/2017 6:40:11 AM PST by ridesthemiles (uen)
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To: RitaOK

SOMEONE had to vote to create this ‘office’ & vote to staff it & vote to let this money be paid out.

WHO signed the checks or signed/approved the electronic transfer of funds???

What various budgets did the money come from??????

Who signed off on $220,000 payout in behalf of Hastings bad behavior. ????

This cannot happen in a vacuum. Someone handled it. Someone voted on the origination of these 2 ‘offices’ in the first place.


32 posted on 12/16/2017 6:44:25 AM PST by ridesthemiles (uen)
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To: ridesthemiles

I was speaking of a public vote for such a thing.

There was none.

Representatives are saying they never heard of this arrangement and are calling for an investigation and a vote to stop this mis-use of tax payer money footing the bill.

I was saying the vote to stop it will sail through the House. That’s all. It isn’t
exactly a vote of courage, but one of common sense that no one dare vote against if they expect to get themselves re-elected.


33 posted on 12/16/2017 7:10:57 AM PST by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public education & academia= the farm team for more Marxists coming, infinitum.)
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To: Adder
“He made me feel bad...” is not a crime...Women want to be treated equally? Get over yourselves and stfu.

So many children in women's bodies.

34 posted on 12/16/2017 9:52:49 AM PST by gogeo (Leftists are a parasite that destroys the host.)
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To: Stirner
...As a society, we are trying to figure out what standards of evidence (if any) to apply to these cases. “Beyond a reasonable doubt” may be too high. “Preponderance of evidence” may also be too demanding a standard...

Meaning men can kiss "due process" goodbye.

35 posted on 12/16/2017 9:56:35 AM PST by gogeo (Leftists are a parasite that destroys the host.)
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