Posted on 11/30/2018 2:21:41 PM PST by fwdude
Truth! Legal pot has made our state and my city a worse place to live. Pot heads can opine all they want but we have more crime and vagrancy with no visible upside.
Sorry to have come across testy. I’m just fed up with self-righteous hypocrites who see no problem with the damage alcohol causes and think pot is absolute poison. To be perfectly honest. marijuana is far more pleasant than alcohol is a VERY powerful aphrodisiac. Tobacco, in particular cigarette smoking cause far more health problems and deaths than alcohol and in all the history of the last century no one has ever called for it’s prohibition.
We’ve had good interactions before, so I was in no hurry to return fire. Also, I agree completely with the comments in your last post w/r/t pot vs alcohol and tobacco. I had a friend with an iron constitution who abused everything under the sun, but it was the tobacco he’d quit 20 years ago which finally got him.
Since I’m drifted over to tobacco... it’s the tar that kills. Why is everyone so exercised about vaping? Is a clean vaping addiction to nicotine so bad, compared to the other possibilities out there? (And, as a lifelong non-smoker, I have no dog in that fight).
I know it’s addictive. I have a BIL who has a very addictive personality. Opiates, alcohol, tobacco... you name it. At the request of his family, he quit smoking for a while, but then blew out his pancreas with alcohol. Of course, the poor guy is also an Ivy League liberal arts educated liberal. Anyway...
Since he couldn’t drink anymore, and opiates were frowned on after he treated someone’s bathroom drug cabinet like a PEZ dispenser at a family reunion, he went back to smoking, with the approval of his nuclear family, because he needed some outlet.
But, then vaping came along... which I recommended to him, and he was able to drastically cut back his cigarette consumption. Vaping was enough to keep his jitters down and enabled him to cut back on the cigs.
“You are from the real world, right?”
Not so much, I guess. More a man of the middle 20th century.
When I hear the term “buy,” I think of the exchange of money. EBT cards I think of as “trade,” although I guess there’s no functional difference.
” but it was the tobacco he’d quit 20 years ago which finally got him.”
Or maybe it didn’t,and he would have died anyway.
It would be considered a smoking related death in order to satisfy the smoke Nazis.
Smoking is NOT good for you,but it certainly isn’t as bad as it is made out to be.
It was non-small-cell lung cancer. I assume tobacco-related causation. In fact, I was surprised, because he’d spent some months scrapping a destroyer where (to quote him) “the asbestos flew around like it was a snow storm”. But, he didn’t have mesothelioma.
That’s not accurate
You can most definitely be cited if the officer suspects you are high
Or smells it
Same as taking a Percocet or Valium and being stopped impaired
Speaking of alcohol
Alcohol related deaths in Colorado via traffic accidents 161
Traffic deaths in Colorado whereby victim tested positive for cannabis were 115 the same time
Of those 115 approximately 60% were enough nanograms concentration to make one high
Marijuana can be detected for months ...when it no longer has any intoxicating effect which is a matter of hours
I could not find data on marijuana versus alcohol in other deaths like murder and spousal or child abuse
Over 2000 Americans a year die from alcohol by itself lethal overdose
It’s exponentsily higher if combination drugs are taken into account
I’m unaware of THCA overdoses but I would think it’s possible say if someone drank a liter of CO2 THCA vape oil
Can large doses makes folks nutty ...oh yes
It’s not like an acid test bu the overamped internal dialogue is reminiscent but much less intense
Anyone gets in trouble with pot intoxication should have a benzodiazepine handy and don’t drive or operate tower cranes or passenger airlines or perform pancreatic surgery
I know folks I cannot lie who function at stratospheric levels of accomplishment in business and law high as a damn kite
They tend to be hyper as hell and weed slows them to manageable
I sure liked it in my youth
Maybe I’ll be a retiree stoner with no hair one day except I can’t afford to retire
Even though I love the taste of beer wine and liquor I detest the effect
Since well before any state had legalized, kids have been reporting that they can get pot almost as easily as cigarettes or beer - despite the latter two being severalfold more prevalent among the general population. The available evidence says the better way to keep a drug away from kids is to legalize it for adults (giving its legal sellers an economic incentive to not sell to kids).
A number of things that can be used to harm OTHERS are prohibited. Alcohol, tobacco, and fast food (to name just a few) are legal and regulated because their only proximate harm is to the user.
What is “regulation” other than strict prohibitions under many circumstances?
See? Pot never becomes legal, only much more highly regulated. I hope you’re happy with your new “libertarianism.”
Empty word games - and that "many" is highly disputable.
See? Pot never becomes legal, only much more highly regulated.
Doesn't follow and isn't true. Never-noway-nohow is much more restrictive than what's imposed by any legalizing state.
I hope you’re happy with your new “libertarianism.”
When did I ever claim to be a libertarian?
...and roger. I am not far off. It is often difficult for me to visualize how corrupt and rotten the republic has become.
Oh, please. Pot is now MUCH more regulated than when it was completely banned. Now, children must admittedly be protected, so parameters of all kinds must be set. Dispensaries close to schools? No, there are now specified ranges. That probably goes for churches and other places that are not inclined to be subject to pot’s influence.
That’s just one of dozens of examples.
Pot is now MUCH more regulated than when it was completely banned.
Only under some strained and uninteresting daffynition of "more regulated". My statement stands.
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