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Vision Zero, a ‘Road Diet’ Fad, Is Proving to Be Deadly
Wall Street Journal ^ | January 18, 2019 | Christopher D. LeGras

Posted on 01/19/2019 5:23:31 AM PST by reaganaut1

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To: Redak

The circles in my neck of the woods have a sloping curb on the inside.

To continue straight thru, I much rather take a bump and cut the corner than swing right - swing left - swing right again.


61 posted on 01/19/2019 6:27:19 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

You know, in case someone has a flat and needs to repair it before riding home, that sort of thing.

Not joking.


62 posted on 01/19/2019 8:43:25 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Dang; how much ‘room’ does that take?

I carry enough tools under my bike seat to do that!

Besides; one should belong to the ABA in case of needed repairs.


63 posted on 01/20/2019 4:19:31 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: kearnyirish2

My question is, why have pedestrian fatalities risen in such an environment?

Since there are fewer lanes of auto traffic to cross, one might think there’d be less. But I see two possibilities:

1) the fewer lanes encourage more people to make a dash for it and/or enable the motor traffic to move at a higher speed, and/or

2) as it seems there in with such configurations in Times Square in NYC, the signage and lights don’t well reflect what is going on at such relatively unfamiliar intersections, and pedestrians get confused.


64 posted on 01/20/2019 4:31:53 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: oldvirginian

Ha ha. I was a farm kid, had been driving tractors for years, when I was out of high school by the time I was eligible for driver’s ed in the latter 70’s. Still had to take it in an independent course over the summer to qualify for my license, but yeah, driving on the road was a cinch after all I’d done on the farm.


65 posted on 01/20/2019 4:34:14 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
Since there are fewer lanes of auto traffic to cross, one might think there’d be less. But I see two possibilities:

Well; there will STILL be about the same AMOUNT of cars in those fewer lanes.

To get the same VOLUME of traffic down the road, a speed increase HAS to occur, and the cars would HAVE to be running CLOSER together.

Seems like it would be MORE deadly for someone to cross!


Think of a broad, slowly moving river, that gets narrowed down to go through a canyon.


66 posted on 01/20/2019 4:58:56 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

My point is that the fewer lanes may encourage more people to take that chance. Not too many think they can out-dash four lanes of traffic, but two? Maybe more.

And in Times Square, speed may or may not come into play, since there are lights every few yards at every block crossing.


67 posted on 01/20/2019 5:00:45 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

I see.


68 posted on 01/20/2019 5:02:56 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 9YearLurker

We didn’t know how good life was back then, did we.
Like Burt Reynolds once said, “I spent the first half of my life trying to get away from this small town, I’ve spent the second half trying to get back here”.


69 posted on 01/20/2019 8:26:34 AM PST by oldvirginian ( Buckle up kids, rough road ahead.)
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To: oldvirginian

Ha ha. I almost feel like that. Like Candide I think I’m ready to just go tend my garden—but I can’t do that yet.


70 posted on 01/20/2019 8:30:18 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: reaganaut1

This thing being a leftists thing, I presumed ‘diet’ referred to liberals eating road kill ... but it is just their way of making more road kill.


71 posted on 01/20/2019 8:53:02 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: reaganaut1
Lane reductions, bike lanes, new meridians

New "meridians"? Really?

72 posted on 01/20/2019 8:54:26 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: reaganaut1

Statist masterminds know best.


73 posted on 01/20/2019 9:00:44 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: reaganaut1
So it's not about losing weight by eating road kill?

Ho-hum ...

Whatever ...

74 posted on 01/20/2019 9:04:48 AM PST by x
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To: VanShuyten

“No amount of traffic planning will stop that.”

You’re right; a wall will (along with enforcement of existing laws).

Incredible this is even debated after 9/11, where visa overstays killed thousands of Americans...


75 posted on 01/21/2019 10:18:14 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Haiku Guy

“Next morning, they were gone.”

Hey, at least you paid the lip service to “progressivism”...


76 posted on 01/21/2019 10:19:22 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: discostu

Yes, there are plenty of bad American drivers; they shouldn’t be licensed until at least 18...


77 posted on 01/21/2019 10:20:22 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: ichabod1

Yes, productive people insure their cars, pay their tickets, etc.; bills are for suckers...


78 posted on 01/21/2019 10:21:59 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Redak

These oversize trucks (used as cars, not in a work capacity)are absurd in suburban/urban environments; they don’t fit in any spots, they blocks the view on corners - they just don’t fit...


79 posted on 01/21/2019 10:23:55 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 9YearLurker

I’ve noticed NYC has gone to great lengths (maybe only in certain areas) to reduce contact between cars and pedestrians; many blocks have a fence-like barrier that only opens at corners to discourage jaywalking, and the cops will ticket jaywalkers - not as revenue, but just to encourage people to evolve into First Worlders. I’m no fan of NYC, but they’ll go to great lengths to makes sure “the spice flows” smoothly. Outside of commercial areas, it is a whole different ballgame - a whole different world, really.


80 posted on 01/21/2019 10:27:07 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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