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Hunter Biden Accused of $156M Counterfeiting Scheme With Burisma, CrowdStrike, Legal Filing Claims
PJ Media ^ | December 30, 2019 | Tyler O'Neil

Posted on 12/31/2019 6:41:42 AM PST by dalight

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To: Liz

No they don’t, and that’s a good place to pass funny money if you think you are above all consequences, which he obviously does.

The male Bidens are pure creatures of ravenous appetite, and the female Biden endeavors to inflict them on us all in order for her to remain close to perceived power.

These are awful, awful people.


21 posted on 12/31/2019 7:34:51 AM PST by chris37 (Where's Hunter?)
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To: dalight

And, more interesting stuff:

Why the latest theory about the DNC not being hacked is probably wrong
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346468-why-the-latest-theory-about-the-dnc-not-being-a-hack-is-probably-wrong

This counters the assertion that the files were copied too fast to have been a foreign hack.

The meme is that Trump has mixed Hillary’s server with the DNC’s server. Possible. I just did.

https://www.cyberscoop.com/donald-trump-crowdstrike-ukraine-phone-call/

But this doesn’t make that much sense because I was able to correct pretty quickly. Trump would have folks who would clarify. Google only has results that support this view.. over and over until you dig deeper.

But, the problem with images and that CloudStrike made them is that its like having a private firm hired by the defendant walk through a crime scene before the police are allowed to see it. The images and what is on the metal are what ever CloudStrike wanted to leave there.

https://amgreatness.com/2019/09/25/ukraine-gate-is-about-the-russian-hack-that-wasnt/

This article explains the issues with the whole CloudStrike narrative that is the core of the “Russian Hack” narrative.

CrowdStrikeOut: Mueller’s Own Report Undercuts Its Core Russia-Meddling Claims

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/07/05/crowdstrikeout_muellers_own_report_undercuts_its_core_russia-meddling_claims.html

And, it establishes that the “cloud service” was Microsoft Exchange server(s), still unknown (to me) who was hosting, but most likely DNC, not Microsoft as other articles refer to specific servers that could be imaged. Microsoft’s iron wasn’t, for sure.


22 posted on 12/31/2019 7:37:29 AM PST by dalight
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

It’s written all over him.

He may as well have “JUNKIE” tattooed on his forehead.

I loved it in that interview he said to the reporter commenting on his many trips to rehab, “Say it nicer to me”.

I would have simply responded to him ,”F*** you, you f***in’ junkie”.

I would love to see his reaction to her saying that.


23 posted on 12/31/2019 7:39:58 AM PST by chris37 (Where's Hunter?)
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To: FES0844
Joe’s gotta be ruing the day he threw his hat in the ring.

I disagree. I think Joe knew all this Burisma stuff would come to light, and so by running for president, he could make the argument that Trump was trying to use the office of the presidency get Ukraine to spy on him. Of course it's a complete rubbish accusation, but the lamestream media is covering it that way and completely ignoring anything that portrays the Bidens in a bad light. Only by running for president could Joe make this flimsy argument. It's all he has.

24 posted on 12/31/2019 7:48:27 AM PST by HandBasketHell
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To: chris37
Those were the heady days of "anything goes" when Hillary
was a "shoo-in," and all criminality would be laughed off.

What? Me worry?

25 posted on 12/31/2019 7:55:16 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: goldstategop
It happened to Clinton too. Sometimes men meet up with a woman that refuses to be scorned and then watch out.

I warned my two sons, if you decide to have sex before marriage, you better really like the girl, as there is a chance she gets pregnant, you will be dealing with her and your child for the rest of your life. Be careful with that decision.

26 posted on 12/31/2019 8:08:57 AM PST by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Awesome comment. And, a 2nd firm was brought in as well. But, they are a compromised source and the investigation was compromised by their actions no matter how professional. Once they found evidence of criminal activity they had an obligation to stop and turn over this investigation to the guidance of the FBI. They could have done a recovery to a third party service in the mean time. Sucks, but you have to choose. Preserve the crime scene or move on. They tried to do both and did neither.

I don’t get at this point in time what the Server was that Trump discussed in his phone call. I get how he may see CloudStrike as a bad actor, especially from his viewpoint which sees things we don’t. The DNC hacking thing has always been a red herring. The problem with the fury is that the damning material was the truth. It showed what slimy things the DNC was doing. And, so the scream has always been don’t look there.. look here!

I don’t really give this particular story that much credence, but as I said, I admire this conduit through the MSM filter that is being exploited.

I was also stunned by how hard Google is pressing its thumb on the CloudStrike thing.. but then.. perhaps not.

“You have to be so frickin careful what you’re willing to believe. The ultimate realization is that there is NO REPORTING PARTY with a vested interest in accurately stating the truth 1/100th as much as SEVERAL interested parties ALL with vested interests in either collecting advertising eyeballs or simply misdirecting these tidbits of information as they trickle in. For all practical purposes, these are all experiments in disinformation and opinion control.”

Yes.. you are right on the money. There was a series of two books years back called Meme Wars by John Barnes. These books proposed a dystopian world which we seem to have found ourselves IRL.

You really confront this when you look at what information folks who are sucked in by the Democrat narrative are reading that confirms their worldview. But, I have seen the launch of numerous “News” sites recently that are well crafted web sites with lots of interesting content, but who the hell are they? Who knows.

I have a dear friend who still buys the original spin on the Nick Sandmann story and they get red in the face when I even attempt to offer counter evidence. Its more about “shut up.” Getting people to harden, as much to shape opinion. Once folks are hardened, its really hard to even talk to them, much less offer a different perspective. So, they spin, that’s debunked.. whether it is or not. Stories like this give the “that’s debunked crowd” something to point at.

I remember this during the great Birth Certificate debate where the “issue” was a side issue. The red herring obscured the real problem of Obama’s attending college as a foreign student and his years after that.. which were hidden by the press.


27 posted on 12/31/2019 8:09:19 AM PST by dalight
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To: dalight

Vice President Joe Biden, was the Obama administration point person on Ukraine,Obama fins way to get his money cleaned?.
Bet he has more bank accounts than socks.


28 posted on 12/31/2019 8:14:06 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

You know the funny thing about all of this is that the DNC emails material was a revelation of the facts, which yielded almost no consequence to the DNC because of their tactic of making this part of their “Russia” narrative.

Where as the “Pee Dossier” was a complete Russian sourced fabrication and it served as the basis for 3 years of hell and the consequences still haven’t hit the parties involved.

And, the Impeachment itself is all of the things it charges. Abuse of power to impact an election (2020) and a clear Obstruction of Justice effort to shut down the investigation that would clarify all of these points.


29 posted on 12/31/2019 8:17:57 AM PST by dalight
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To: dalight

“according to a new legal filing in an Arkansas paternity case”

filings in Arkansas paternity suits are my go-to source for reliable political and financial information because the parties never file anything that isn’t totally vetted and guaranteed to be completely true ...


30 posted on 12/31/2019 8:22:37 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: dalight

Your linked article is a very interesting read. It seems as close as we’re likely to see to an official DNC propaganda version of this. In good Dem style, the author manipulates words to create false impressions.

In reality, it was months after the FBI informed the DNC of a potential hacking problem, that the DNC hired the infamous Perkins-Coie law firm to manage its response. P-C hired Crowdstrike so its work would be “Attorney-Client Privileged”. Per the author, Crowdstrike supposedly imaged 140 cloud-based servers. But that would have been done months after the alleged hacking, with ample time and opportunity for manipulation. The time delay and sheer quantity of servers would also make it rather easy to “lose” undesirable evidence in the shuffle — maybe there were 141+ servers. Crowdstrike turned over nothing directly to the FBI. After much delay, Perkins-Coie, gave the FBI a redacted version of the Crowdstrike report. Claims that Crowdstrike turned over 140 images of servers sounds like a complete lie — it’s not corroborated elsewhere.

Focusing on imaging, etc., dodges the reality that the servers were located SOMEWHERE. I’d like to see a roster of where each of the physical servers were located, who owned them, who operated them, was use of each restricted to DNC data only. Were any in Ukraine, for instance? Pakistan? Considering the argument that transfer times for the Wikileaks data were too short for anything but a local download, the server locations could be revealing.


31 posted on 12/31/2019 8:29:53 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: goldstategop
What goes around comes around, and this is the only the tip of a vast dirty, vile and secretively dangerous iceberg.
32 posted on 12/31/2019 8:38:13 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Lincoln: "The Founders did not make America racist or slaver. They inherited it, that way!")
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To: dalight

D&A appears suspect, given to hype, and introduced itself into the child support case opportunistically. The potential Crowdstrike and DNC server nexus with Ukraine and Biden are intriguing. As you comment, the nature, location, and ownership of the cloud “servers” used by the DNC matter.


33 posted on 12/31/2019 8:47:11 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: circlecity

He was too stingy, and now the evidence revealed will now become part of a Congressional record in an impeachment trial, one where Hunter could have pleaded the 5th and there would have been no documentary evidence of Hunter’s money laundering with Soros and bagman activity for Joe and the Obamas.

Bonehead. With Bonehead lawyers to boot.

Now Hunter is effed 6 ways to side ways.

Swingin like a tay in the win’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyOcSp3u9Rw


34 posted on 12/31/2019 8:48:18 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: dalight

Thank you & HNY!

“.... And, a 2nd firm was brought in as well. But, they are a compromised source .... Preserve the crime scene or move on. They tried to do both and did neither.

I disagree with this point. I think c/strike did utterly and professionally the right thing, top to bottom, and the FBI just sat on the results, consistent with their other behavior.

“I don’t get at this point in time what the Server was that Trump discussed in his phone call.

I think he was just flaming wrong or misspoke in his statement. I doubt Mr. Trump has much more than a drive-by understanding of servers and all that. Just sayin’.

“I get how he may see CloudStrike as a bad actor, especially from his viewpoint which sees things we don’t. The DNC hacking thing has always been a red herring. The problem with the fury is that the damning material was the truth. It showed what slimy things the DNC was doing. And, so the scream has always been don’t look there.. look here!

Agree. But again, I honestly think c/strike is far and away the most unbiased actor in this. I did not always feel nor think that way. Only fairly recently has my research led me to believe that c/strike is quite legit. And maybe I will change my opinion again. I certainly understand Trump’s feeling that he is and has been the victim of all this chaos and even though I am calling him wrong on this, he is still more composed in the face of this onslaught than 999 other people would be.

“...I was also stunned by how hard Google is pressing its thumb on the CloudStrike thing.. but then.. perhaps not.

This seems like a relatively new tactic-set (it’s not a single tactic; it’s a multi-front approach) in the age of fake news and the people who want to believe same, IMO. Instead of (or perhaps alongside of) efforts at debunking or discrediting fake news or just insulting the purveyor by calling them a Nazi, there is the effort to magnify or exaggerate the fakeness to the point of ridiculousness; and this is actually very logical: If, by believing fake news I can proceed to a conclusion that is obviously absurd, I can undermine the base assumption or assertion and NOBODY can discern just where along the line of reasoning the plausible leaves off and the absurd begins. This to me is an acknowledgement that the old tactic of just calling someone a racist or a Nazi has grown shopworn. Not that it won’t be freely used; there’s just this recognition that the edges of “racist!” have worn down.

“..I have a dear friend who still buys the original spin on the Nick Sandmann story and they get red in the face when I even attempt to offer counter evidence. Its more about “shut up.” Getting people to harden, as much to shape opinion. Once folks are hardened, its really hard to even talk to them, much less offer a different perspective. So, they spin, that’s debunked.. whether it is or not. Stories like this give the “that’s debunked crowd” something to point at.

I notice this as well. In effect, many stories have become non-debunkable. The power of media repetition welded to one’s natural confirmation bias creates a veritable fortress of immovable thought. And nobody can say whether or not it is actually happening to them...This is just an observation for me, at the moment, I don’t know quite what to do with it. But there is a point in our socially-media’ed society where the urge or NEED for one’s self-preservation of credibility and opinion-validity supplants any ephemeral WANT to know the truth. A NEED has replaced a WANT. This is ego, is it not? Fear of loss of cred. I think I am stating my thought accurately but maybe not. The bottom line is this need to be socially acceptable has become an absolutely dominant societal and behavioral force and it is seriously profound in its implications. I mean if you can get people unmoored to any external reference to do and act these ways, there are really no limits. Take the TX church shooter and divide his dementedness among 100 otherwise civil people and what do you get? You can certainly get voters.


35 posted on 12/31/2019 8:57:35 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Spot on and eloquently stated.


36 posted on 12/31/2019 8:59:32 AM PST by CrazyIvan (The Democrat party. A collaboration of Cloward-Piven and Dunning-Kruger.)
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To: circlecity

Literally , Hunter killed by his own dick! What a laugh!
Oh the irony!


37 posted on 12/31/2019 9:02:38 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: dalight

That’s why I am saying that there is no value in purveying truth. Truth is last week’s rock ‘n roll hit. It’s obsolete as a value. You make lots more money hurling bulls**t than resolving uncertainty or clarifying the obscure.

This has never not been true, but the technology and persuasion science available today is fearsome in its effectiveness. And maybe I’m hallucinating but I believe it has very recently ramped up a notch. All these avenues of persuasion and influence, believe me, are ultimately the biggest industry there is. If the consumer is 70% of the US economy, damn right it is.

I see this in advertising, as well. Just tell people they’ll lose weight and take their $99 and ship it for free and if by some chance 7% of them are unhappy 30 days later you refund their money and make your $99 from the 93%. The value doesn’t lie in accuracy, it lies in collecting the calculated result and grabbing the next batch of prospects.


38 posted on 12/31/2019 9:09:03 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: dalight

Donald Trump sings My Favorite Things

Biden Pelosi Kerry Ukraine
Steal all the money while Trump gets the blame
Impeachment’s the lie that the media sings
These are a few of my terrible things

My Terrible Things https://youtu.be/lIXIPpKHxJE via
@YouTube


39 posted on 12/31/2019 9:12:39 AM PST by Titus-Maximus (The trouble with socialism is that you soon run out of other people's zoo animals to eat.)
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To: dalight

I am not buying COUNTERFEITING!!! I think this is FAKE STORY so we BITE on it and look STUPID!


40 posted on 12/31/2019 9:30:02 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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