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This Sounds Wrong but AP is reporting "More deaths, no benefit from malaria drug in VA virus study"
Associated Press ^ | April 21 | MARILYNN MARCHIONE

Posted on 04/21/2020 10:57:21 AM PDT by TECTopcat

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To: TECTopcat

“versus standard care”

Thus far, administration of the drug seems mostly limited to the more severe cases. How severe were the symptoms of the population receiving “standard care”? Is this an apples-to-apples comparison?


21 posted on 04/21/2020 11:04:06 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: TECTopcat

Researchers did not track side effects, but noted hints that hydroxychloroquine might have damaged other organs.

That sounds scientific.


22 posted on 04/21/2020 11:04:07 AM PDT by Flick Lives (A liberal is someone who worries that somewhere, someone is enjoying life.)
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To: TECTopcat

Reports have already shown that once they are on a ventilator it is too late for the drugs. They have to be taken as soon as symptoms are seen.


23 posted on 04/21/2020 11:06:25 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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To: monkeyshine

Anybody have a link to the study itself? Has it been submitted for review? Lots of questions and no answers.


24 posted on 04/21/2020 11:07:31 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: TECTopcat

I’ll wait for the Babylon Bee report on it, probably will be more factual.


25 posted on 04/21/2020 11:09:29 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: a fool in paradise

“We take over the banks, we take over the healthcare system, we take over the universities, we take over the media…”


26 posted on 04/21/2020 11:10:01 AM PDT by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine Do you think we have a chan)
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To: wastoute

Here is what I will be asking for if I get hit with the Plague..among other things. Trying to hang on until the medical community can come up with a plan that everyone can access. Right now..we dont have it in the U.S.

Marcus AureliusIn reply to riley290 • 6:47p, 4/20/20AG
Wow great stuff man. My experience with toci has been nothing short of miraculous. But all the hospitals in this state battling for doses. Can’t get sirulamab. God bless you in NYC. I get freaked out here dealing with 5-10. Can’t imagine dealing with your volume. Please be safe.

https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3107744/2


27 posted on 04/21/2020 11:10:31 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: hattend
Have they forgotten about the Dem congress woman who praised Trump for the drugs when she recovered?

History began this morning for these people. Just like toddlers.

28 posted on 04/21/2020 11:10:42 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: TECTopcat; gas_dr
"According to a study released on Tuesday, April 21, 2020..."

"Outcomes of hydroxychloroquine usage in United States veterans hospitalized with Covid-19"

- see https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v1.full.pdf

29 posted on 04/21/2020 11:13:52 AM PDT by Fury
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To: wastoute

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v1


30 posted on 04/21/2020 11:14:13 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: MrChips

Meet the world’s most powerful doctor: Bill Gates
By NATALIE HUET AND CARMEN PAUN 5/4/17, 12:00 PM CET Updated 5/8/17, 11:52 AM CET
https://www.politico.eu/article/bill-gates-who-most-powerful-doctor/

Some billionaires are satisfied with buying themselves an island. Bill Gates got a United Nations health agency in Geneva.

Over the past decade, the world’s richest man has become the World Health Organization’s second biggest donor, second only to the United States and just above the United Kingdom. This largesse gives him outsized influence over its agenda, one that could grow as the U.S. and the U.K. threaten to cut funding if the agency doesn’t make a better investment case.

The result, say his critics, is that Gates’ priorities have become the WHO’s....

In January, 30 health advocacy groups penned an open letter to WHO’s executive board protesting against making the Gates Foundation an official partner of the agency because its revenue comes from investments in companies that are at odds with public health goals, such as Coca-Cola...

Gates’ influence over the WHO was called into question once again during the race to succeed Chan as its director general.

The final three candidates include Sania Nishtar, a cardiologist from Pakistan who has pledged to take the agency “back to its former glory”; David Nabarro, a British physician and former U.N. special envoy for Ebola; and Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, who has served as health minister and foreign minister in the Ethiopian government.

...Last year, a French diplomat suggested that Gates also supports Tedros, having funded health programs in his country when he was health minister. Several foundation officials have denied this, saying that the foundation cannot take a position given that it is not a voting member country and thus has to remain neutral.


31 posted on 04/21/2020 11:14:31 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The fish wrap media promoted Obama's Benghazi lies in 2012.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I think that is right. The earlier the better.

Thousands of doctors are using it now.

Turkey claimed it cut down pneumonia.

Not confident in the reporting.


32 posted on 04/21/2020 11:14:51 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (The trouble with socialism is that you soon run out of other people's zoo animals to eat.)
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To: Da Coyote

PRAVDA


33 posted on 04/21/2020 11:15:01 AM PDT by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine Do you think we have a chan)
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To: wastoute

agree-more questions than answers . I just sent tweet to Neil Cavuto that despite the report itself saying that he reported as fact something that is not and even they say about their study is “The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment.”
and their claim that “But with 368 patients, it’s the largest look so far of hydroxychloroquine” is false as their are several over 1,000 see Denis Pragers interview with Dr Zelenko

https://www.dennisprager.com/video/dr-zelenko-this-is-a-game-changer-potentially/


34 posted on 04/21/2020 11:15:04 AM PDT by TECTopcat (e)
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To: Steely Tom

“including altering the heartbeat in a way that could lead to sudden death.”

That is a complete fabrication. That is a side affect of perhaps arythomyocin.


35 posted on 04/21/2020 11:16:18 AM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: TECTopcat

Remember, anyone in a VA for the most part, will have underlying conditions.


36 posted on 04/21/2020 11:16:52 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Polls are no longer designed to measure public sentiment but to influence it.)
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From study:

“CONCLUSIONS: In this study, we found no evidence that use of hydroxychloroquine, either with or without azithromycin, reduced the risk of mechanical ventilation in patients hospitalized with Covid-19. An association of increased overall mortality was identified in patients treated with hydroxychloroquine alone. These findings highlight the importance of awaiting the results of ongoing prospective, randomized, controlled studies before widespread adoption of these drugs.”

The patients in this study were already hospitalized:

“We developed a cohort comprising patients with laboratory confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection in an inpatient setting. SARS-CoV-2 status was classified by laboratory results that were extracted from VA laboratory data. A text search for SARS-CoV-2 laboratory tests was used to query VA lab results. The study index date was defined as the date of a hospitalization with a positive SARS-CoV-2 laboratory test. Index dates range from March 9, 2020 to April 11, 2020, and patients were followed from index until hospital discharge or death”


37 posted on 04/21/2020 11:18:14 AM PDT by Fury
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To: TECTopcat
It all depends on who and when they were provided to the Covid-19 patient. Also, what else was given to them. If they didn't provide zinc and the other item that I can never remember the name of, but it starts with an a.

Besides there are a lot of articles where doctors give it to numerous patients that most if not all recovered without issues.

AP is not going to tell the the entire story where the truth might be revealed, especially if it assists President Trump in any shape, form, or manner.

38 posted on 04/21/2020 11:18:25 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: TECTopcat

got tangled up editing that sentence but what I tweeted to Cavuto was that he reported as fact something that even they acknowledge about their study: “The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment.”

sure this ‘study” one gets reported!!


39 posted on 04/21/2020 11:18:44 AM PDT by TECTopcat (e)
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To: dforest

No Z pack or zinc too?


That was my question as well. I’m just taking quinine and Zinc and not even thinking about this virus. The only way it affects me is in ways where I have no choice, e.g. eating in restaurants.


40 posted on 04/21/2020 11:19:49 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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