FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor

The Hill ^ | 10 08 2020 | Zack Budryk

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

#215. What is the flag on the right of the picture, some kind of black and yellow?

These guys may represent a white anarchist splinter group (and screw-ups) who are mentally ill. In other words, losers.

[A Conservative Future]

Feel free to enjoy your apparent sense of moral superiority of those of us who question the honesty of the FBI.

Thank you for taking my commentary in the spirit it was intended. I don't feel morally superior at all; I feel deeply cynical. I generally support law enforcement and want to see them succeed; the schizophrenic attitude of the Freeper population at large on the topic can be deeply bewildering and demoralizing.

From the evidence presented, combined with the sentiment expressed by the accused and the displays of militancy in the spring, I have a hard time believing this entire thing is an FBI put up job. There are a lot of people in this country who have spun themselves an heroic myth about tyranny with themselves written in as the saviors.

I think your skepticism is healthy and warranted; you don't sound like a crank. But a lot of folks are just programmed now to automatically go off on these wild deep state fantasy rants anytime something happens that makes them feel uncomfortable. To me, the FBI is a law enforcement agency, this is a conservative, law and order regime, and they still thought these guys were a threat. I dunno. I guess I am doing "back the blue" wrong or something, because this FBI has been working for Trump and a Republican Congress for three and a half years, with all the appointment, budgetary, and political power that entails. So it seems deeply weird to me that they would expend such a wild amount of resources on such a huge, vast conspiracy involving dozens to hundreds of people, to... make their own benefactors look bad.

Not that it matters. They are federal charges, so Trump will just pardon them anyway.

[Sioux-san]

So you have all the evidence you need right now- no trial needed. How many times have we been down this road and it never ends up where it started off.

[HollyB]

Not sure. It’s not really an American flag. There’s a P where the stars should be. But, they hate Trump snd law enforcement.

They are anarchists

FBI press release

https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdmi/pr/2020_1008_Fox

https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdmi/press-release/file/1326161/download

“ The federal complaint in this case alleges that the FBI began an investigation earlier this year after becoming aware through social media that a group of individuals was discussing the violent overthrow of certain government and law enforcement components.”

“ The militia group had already been brought to the attention of the FBI by a local police department in March 2020, when members of the militia group were attempting to obtain the addresses of local law-enforcement officers. At the time, the FBI interviewed a member of the militia group who was concerned about the group’s plans to target and kill police officers, and that person agreed to become a CHS.”

“ The attendees discussed plans for assaulting the Michigan State Capitol, countering law enforcement first responders, and using “Molotov cocktails” to destroy police vehicles”

[piasa]

Maybe Mr. Antifa is going to be the “heroic informant.”

[EVO X]

Thanks for the link to the charging doc. I doubt the governor was in any real danger from this group. These people likely would have been under surveillance back in March and her security detail would have been increased as soon as they talked about kidnapping her. I think it likely she would have been notified of any new developments in planning by the group..

[Westbrook]

+1
GMTA.
;)

[familyop]

"These lockdowns are very questionable. Some pretty learned people are referencing them as out and out Constitutional infractions of a major magnitude."

Agreed, from what little I've read about them. The government lockdowns sound pretty bad.

I'm in a world apart in a state with no government mandates to slow businesses down. Also tired with trying to get some personal things done before winter while fighting a health difficulty, and I don't have time to read much about other places. Anyway, people here and there are getting sick in my locale. Some of them haven't returned to work, yet, so there are rumors.

Some service businesses are running very slowly (restaurants, gyms, etc.). Others continue doing well (groceries, big discount stores, vehicle service,...). Consumer habits are changing. Went to a tire shop recently, and that was busy. A neighbor works in a steel fabrication shop, and they're suffering from cancellations of export contracts (a client company in Mexico for one, reportedly because of the epidemic or resulting economic problems).

And there's the election. A couple of conservative young folks (not like most) told me that women in management in local service businesses (a Walmart, for one) are complaining about President Trump at times during their lunch breaks. This is a very conservative agricultural area, so it seems odd that they would be hired and retained for the better positions. They also reportedly complain about men in general a lot, having long ago replaced their husbands with creepy goons. Their kids and grandkids are a mess.

Heh...rambling here (tired) and need to get back to work.

[familyop]

I do sympathize in regards to the lockdowns in blue states, by the way. Many in our current society don't like being coerced with threats of fines to avoid getting sick and spreading a disease. Politicians reacting with antagonizing, negative statements and suffocating regulations to get people under control are ignorant and childish. Looks like they're looking for trouble. The best remedy I can see to an epidemic is a guru approach, like some of what was done in the world wars to get people involved. Innovation and invention are encouraged and accomplished with such campaigns resulting in strengthened economies.

But with the coinciding conspiracy theory epidemic and our spoiled "me" generations, that's not going to happen, either. Hope the antisocial political and cultural situations here don't entice some tyrannical foreign nation to make a biowarfare move with a more deadly germ sometime in the near future. Without the aforementioned innovations and inventions in advance, we're sitting ducks.

[piasa]

Update: No convictions...acquitals and a hung jury... which would be expected if the evidence was poor, or if the prosecution threw the cases to protect false flaggers, the Robert Creamers of the world.

[Sioux-san]

Thank you - not surprising at all considering FBI’s history of creating rather than stopping CHAOS.

[piasa]

One of alleged plotters, 23-year-old Daniel Harris, attended a Black Lives Matter protest in June, telling the Oakland County Times he was upset about the killing of George Floyd and police violence. -—— Breitbart