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America Should Be Prepared for a Surprise Attack from China
https://nationalinterest.org ^ | August 7, 2021 | by David Axe

Posted on 08/07/2021 9:22:18 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

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To: David Chase
Japan doesn’t have a Nuclear Arsenal.

LOL, are you serious? Japan, arguably the most technically advance nation on Earth can put together nukes anytime it wants. And considering the neighborhood Japan lives in I would be very surprised if Japan hasn't stashed away more then a few nukes already.

What do you call this?

101 posted on 08/08/2021 3:35:05 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Wildbill22
risk general nuclear war

There is no risk of that even if it goes conventional. Nobody wins by pulling the nuclear trigger first, so it will never be pulled.

102 posted on 08/08/2021 3:51:21 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Can't happen without CCP troops occupying the US, which will never happen...

Um. It's happening now.

103 posted on 08/08/2021 3:52:06 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Wildbill22

I think we should just give up and sinks all our ships and disband the Army,. That is the gist of your post.


104 posted on 08/08/2021 3:57:30 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va
Um. It's happening now.

Um no it's not. Which coast are the CCP's massing their troops? The east coast or the west coast?

105 posted on 08/08/2021 4:35:17 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Without potatoes, life has no meaning......)
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To: jpsb

Ok…….just looked up some info.

That’s Japan’s First Aircraft Carrier in 75 years.

Just completed around 2020.

https://www.hngn.com/articles/230283/20200628/japan-newest-aircraft-carrier-nearly-done-china-threatened-want-sink.htm

So I think it’s sort of a Tie. LOL

Thanks for helping me learn something new today.


106 posted on 08/08/2021 4:59:36 PM PDT by David Chase
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To: David Chase

yw


107 posted on 08/08/2021 5:07:43 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Safrguns

Please show me and the people of the US the patent research you did. If you didn’t do the research, you have mighty harsh words against the vaccines. Hopefully you have the data to support your OPINION.

Live long and well, dear Freeper.


108 posted on 08/08/2021 5:23:11 PM PDT by Chgogal (#GulagNancy is going all Cuba on Trump Supporters.)
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To: central_va

I think we should just give up and sinks all our ships and disband the Army,. That is the gist of your post.


Again you miss the point.
Frustration is the first reaction of the dealing with a problem, but giving up is never the answer. Admitting there is a problem is the first part of finding a solution, but old concepts or pacifism isn’t.
The battleship was obsolete as the principle naval weapon after Pearl Harbor when the carrier proved it’s value.
I think the carrier is today the battleship of yesterday.
I also think we have to reverse our trend Obama started with “Minimal deterrence” and face the fact that nuclear weapons will not be replaced with good will since there is too little of that among the potential benefactors of that power vacuum.


109 posted on 08/08/2021 5:53:49 PM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: central_va

There is no risk of that even if it goes conventional. Nobody wins by pulling the nuclear trigger first, so it will never be pulled.


General nuclear war is not winnable between near peers in the present context, but that doesn’t mean we can sit on our buts as we have the last 30 years and not keep up with the enemies that might not think it is “un-winable” under their concepts of how it would be played out, or the opportunities they may see. Otherwise why would China be building such an arsenal? Why did we not just keep a few B-29s with Fat Man bombs and call It deterrence? Because it isn’t deterrence.

The answer is that deterrence does not matter what YOU think in the equation, but what your adversary thinks. Does HE think it is un-winnable?
That is why I believe the concept of “minimum deterrence” is such a flawed idea;
-to have the bare minimum to deter is to live on the razors edge of NOT deterring, and new concept and technology, for example perhaps hypersonics, could quickly make it winnable in your enemies eyes. I would personally prefer a little more convincing arsenal than what Obama and W Bush has created for us to deter with. CCP says they will take Taiwan. You think they won’t? I hope you are right, but I think if your potential enemy makes threatening statements you should take them seriously.

BTW, both Russia and China have massive civil defense shelters and exercises. We don’t. And that is because there is a difference in concept as to what is worth investing in, and civil defense isn’t cheap.


110 posted on 08/08/2021 6:12:45 PM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: Chgogal

>>>Hopefully you have the data to support your OPINION.

I have seen multiple videos where the experts were QUOTING THE PATENTS, and showing PICTURES of the relevant Patent data.

It’s not like they just said so, and I believed them.

They actually put effort into their presentations, and displayed the evidence in their videos.

I’m not going to sit here and defend my OPINION that they were both credible experts and honest about their findings.

I found them credible, and see no reason for them to lie about what they are claiming.

Yeah... i’m sharing my opinion of THEIR claims.

If that’s not good enough for you, then by all means, look up the patent yourself, OR feel free to get jabbed all you want.

I’m just trying to warn you not to.


111 posted on 08/08/2021 8:05:34 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Chgogal

>>> Please show me...

This took far less time for me to find with a search than it took for you to respond to my post.

Feel free to Scrutinize it all you like.

https://anti-vaccines.com/graphene-vaccine-ingredient-pfizer/


112 posted on 08/08/2021 8:18:28 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Truthoverpower
Never will happen. They KNOW what will happen in response.

That would have been true up until 1/20/21. Not now.

113 posted on 08/08/2021 8:31:25 PM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: montag813
Biden’s “81 million votes” was the surprise attack.

The twenty million bogus votes, actually.

114 posted on 08/08/2021 8:34:49 PM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: ransomnote
Biden invited 350,000 Chinese troops to Washington D.C. to ‘secure’ the inauguration.

Source, please?

115 posted on 08/08/2021 8:41:03 PM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Truthoverpower

I give up ... what would happen?

Would Lloyd Austin challenge the Chinese to a Trans Fashion Show competition?

Would the New York Times refuse to cover the Chinese take-over of Washington DC because it might be seen as ‘racist’?

Would our politicians say nukes that took out LA and Chicago were ‘accidental releases’ and not to ‘panic’...


116 posted on 08/08/2021 9:05:30 PM PDT by GOPJ (Dump diseased illegals in Florida & Red States to discredit DeSantis (Biden's Border Plan))
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To: RomanSoldier19

Why should China attack the U.S.? China owns the U.S. Bill Clinton, the messiah. And Biden the Thief and Liar along with the Republican Party sold us to them lock, stock and barrelhead. It makes no sense. Someone somewhere down the line is bullshitting you. Now if President Trump was in the White House....it may be a horse of a different color.


117 posted on 08/08/2021 9:10:07 PM PDT by sport
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To: Hot Tabasco
THIS IS HAPPENING NOW:

"they will suck all the agricultural products out of the USA which will not be able to manufacture anything at all."

118 posted on 08/09/2021 4:36:29 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Sawdring
Modified photo to more accurately reflect my sentiments!


119 posted on 08/09/2021 3:40:26 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Thermalseeker

Recall also that just about any strike by a common hunting round is going to kill or produce permanent disability.


120 posted on 08/09/2021 6:04:37 PM PDT by Axenolith (WOOT! Another day without False Vacuum Decay!!!)
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