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NATO Moves Into Finland as Russia Threatens Response
Newsmax ^ | Wednesday May 11, 2022 | Eric Mack

Posted on 05/11/2022 9:44:22 AM PDT by MercyFlush

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To: rottweiller_inc
Do you know the problem with “educated” people? Things always look like they’ll work out on paper

Yeah, most of them airheads rest on the laurels of their degrees.

I actually worked for a living - I'm the one they call when their physical plant breaks.  winking face

141 posted on 05/11/2022 12:47:31 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: CodeToad
And every single one of those is in a country that legitimately asked for them to be there. Or are you selling the "U.S. is a bunch of imperialistic capitalist dogs bent on conquering the world" slop that Moscow, Beijing, and the Blame America First crowd were selling during the Cold War?
142 posted on 05/11/2022 12:48:15 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Tom Tetroxide

This is yet another messaging fail for Russia.
Has it not penetrated the thick heads in the troll farms that this does not help the Russian image?
You guys just have to stop digging this hole. Everyone now sees Russia as public enemy #1
You don’t TRY to be public enemy #1 unless you are extremely desperate, or you are psychotic.
This is a formula for eternal enmity. It just is. Who is going to let down their guard and deal with Russia as a “normal” nation, after all the nuke saber-rattling?


143 posted on 05/11/2022 12:49:54 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya
Even pinheads matter in parliamentary democracies.

Look at the Chief Grinning Fool-ette in Germany - Bündnis 90/Die Grünen Annalena Baerbock.

144 posted on 05/11/2022 12:50:37 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: patriotfury

“There is a whole lot more going on than is published, broadcast, or circulated.”

One of the more astute posts in this entire topic. Kudos.


145 posted on 05/11/2022 12:51:33 PM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: JonPreston
Putin himself wanted to join NATO to draw closer to the West economically. His own motives at the time confirmed that joining NATO does not mean you are being involved in aggressive military expansion.

Putin always knew, right down to the bottom of his soul, that NATO was never going to invade Russia. He and the rest of the world could see NATO's defense budgets consistently shrinking over time, and that the major European players in NATO had absolutely no appetite for military adventures. And apart from all that, Putin knew that Russia's nuclear arsenal was the final deterrent to anyone actually seeking to invade Russia itself.

Putin never feared NATO militarily. What he did fear was that Russia's neighbors could no longer be bullied or intimidated by Russia, and would be free to pursue their own economic and political interests. He believed Russia had the right to hegemony in Eastern Europe. And...it doesn't.

146 posted on 05/11/2022 12:56:31 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: kiryandil

And I’m the guy who used to put in that physical plant - and all its necessary connections to DAQ and control systems. And those control systems. It is the 21st century and all. And its maintenance and upgrades and performance monitoring and all the BS with upper management, and... You have no idea.

You worried about a machine? I spent decades worried about thousands. Dealing with a way, way bigger picture for the last 40 years.


147 posted on 05/11/2022 12:56:59 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“He believed Russia had the right to hegemony in Eastern Europe. And...it doesn’t”

Indeed they don’t.

L


148 posted on 05/11/2022 12:57:44 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: kiryandil

Grinning fools EXIST. And they vote. Welcome to reality, where you cannot assume some system of extermination such that they will not bother us anymore. THAT is just as much a fantasy as the greens.


149 posted on 05/11/2022 12:59:51 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya; Tom Tetroxide
You don’t TRY to be public enemy #1 unless you are extremely desperate, or you are psychotic.

Or your enemies got such an erotic charge out of stomping the Canadian truckers with their digital jackboot that they thought they'd get ten times the fap by cancelling a nuclear power.

At that point, the Russians realized that they were the equivalent of a porn magazine for the neocons and the globalist scum, and decided to check out of Hotel Pornifornia.

And they ain't never coming back.

150 posted on 05/11/2022 1:01:21 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: buwaya

The crap people say when you do not agree with them, the goverment/media/military industrial complex, or the globalists.


151 posted on 05/11/2022 1:02:40 PM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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To: buwaya
And I’m the guy who used to put in that physical plant - and all its necessary connections to DAQ and control systems. And those control systems. It is the 21st century and all. And its maintenance and upgrades and performance monitoring and all the BS with upper management, and... You have no idea.

Oh, eff off.

Morlocks don't need to brag to each other. I was smacking down some pissant who was making fun of one of my posts.

152 posted on 05/11/2022 1:03:14 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: buwaya

Back around 1983/1984 I attended a conference at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco. During the cocktail hour I chanced into a quite frankly charming fellow and we talked at length about the USSR. I noted my interest in not just Faberge eggs (a tad cliché) but the general folk art of the Pascha Eggs.

After we shook hands and parted ways I was informed by someone else that the charming fellow was Vladimir Pozner who at the time was something of a representative for the USSR in the USA.

That led to an extensive contact report and debrief for me.

Some time later he sent me a package with twelve beautifully detailed Pascha egg Christmas ornaments (they’re made of wood) and a few copies of ‘Soviet Life’ magazine.

It was a very thoughtful gift and also a tad unnerving as I had never given him my full name or home address. Still, I appreciate what I am sure was a very thoughtful gift on his part.


153 posted on 05/11/2022 1:06:30 PM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: kiryandil

That is profoundly silly.
The Swedish, Finnish, Polish, etc. governments - and peoples - are not Trudeau, and Russia is not Canadian truckers. Even the Canadian people are not Trudeau. When a nation talks it talks to the world. And that world is diverse - so diverse its hard to grasp the scale of the concept unless you have been there.
Assuming the world is one thing and your opponents and conflicts are limited to one “side” is just crazy.


154 posted on 05/11/2022 1:07:26 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: MercyFlush

Putin will threaten nuclear war. Then his generals will quietly tell him that their nukes need a little maintenance. Well, a lot of maintenance.


155 posted on 05/11/2022 1:08:38 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: MercyFlush

Very interesting!

I went to a few lectures at the Commonwealth Club back in the 1990’s-2000’s and I certainly never had such a fascinating adventure!

The Soviets were indeed very good at this sort of thing. Very clever of them.


156 posted on 05/11/2022 1:09:58 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: kiryandil

Well, to fully make the point - I rank you, as a Morlock.


157 posted on 05/11/2022 1:11:30 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: MercyFlush

State Department helping Ukraine kill Russian generals: NYT

Thursday, 05 May 2022 5:24 AM  [ Last Update: Thursday, 05 May 2022 6:17 AM ]
US Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) (L) talks with Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) during a rally with fellow Democrats before voting on H.R. 1, or the People Act, on the East Steps of the US Capitol on March 08, 2019 in Washington, DC. (AFP photo)
A Russian T-72 tank (File photo)

158 posted on 05/11/2022 1:11:49 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: buwaya
If you classify yourself as an Eloi, then you're what's for dinner.  ROFL face
159 posted on 05/11/2022 1:14:09 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Define “asked”. You obviously know little of international economics or relations. Financial incentives play the largest role.

I guess you would claim the Mexicans who participate with the drug cartels “asked” for that participation even though the cartels gave them a “plata o plomo” incentive.


160 posted on 05/11/2022 1:14:26 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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