Posted on 07/17/2022 9:31:51 PM PDT by Hojczyk
Siwinski just needs to charge it some more.
FTA: A battery for the electric car costs $14,000 !!!!
You can still get parts for cars 100 years old if need be but an electric battery for a fairly new car? Nope, you are out of luck. You dare not have just anyone attempt to repair the battery as even brand new ones can catch fire!
Regrettably, I had to sell it when I downsized. But I’ve got some great memories.
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Suburbans and Blazer/Broncos survive as they were built off of p/u parts.
You will get the oversized electric golf kart fanbois all upset with that critique.....
China will easily conquer Australia.
Just a few years after Taiwan.
Going to have to find something for Safari.
Rule number one for most consumer goods — go with the crowd.
EV sales are production limited. The crowd has spoken.
So what?!
I once purchased a 1963 Chrysler for $40. Two days later, had to purchase a new fuel pump for $80. (Admittedly, that included labor.)
Would that be worthy of a news article?!
Nothing new under the sun!
Regards,
Eight year old car, TRASH because no support for repair! Exactly how does this save the planet? I have a 1994 F250 pick up that I can still buy parts to keep running! A 28 year old vehicle......
You mean natural gas powered. The USA hasn’t been primarily coal powered for at least a decade now.
Nukes,renewables,and coal are all about 20% each in the energy mix. Natural gas dominates the power market. One could just as easily say an electric car is 40% powered by nuclear and renewables vs 20% of coal. Welcome to the 21st century coal should be left in the dust bin of history.
https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3
Good!
Did you not hear of the guy (think it was in Cal.) who, when he found out the cost to replace his expensive/high-end Tesla’s battery, pulled the Tesla up in front of the dealer and EXPLODED IT! Put explosives in and blew it up!
Now THAT is making a statement!
“cost of battery was $9500.00 and installation was $2500.00. Fell out of my chair when I heard that this weekend.”
Every “EV” battery you want to produce requires digging up 500,000 lbs of earth and it doesn’t stop there; having dug it up you must refine it to extract the lithium, cobalt, nickel and copper you need to build that battery pack. Almost none of that is recycled because it is not economic to do so; to mandate recycled materials would make that already-outrageously-expensive battery pack much more expensive.
There will be a massive market for second life, 4R, and battery repair businesses. The shift to EV is happening regardless of what the boomers want frankly it’s not up to y’all not in the least. Boomers are out numbered and are dying off so that outnumbering gets bigger every single day. The younger generations all see EVs as the future. Having panels up on your roof means you can fuel your car at home. The math works out in all of the southern States well exceeding the average yearly driving distances using just the roof space of the average sized garage.
There is an incredible opportunity for disruption technology and services during the transition. Most major automakers have stopped developing ICE engines and will stop selling them in the 2030 to 2035 time frame this also means all OEM part support and manufacturing will cease as well.
There is a large group of very smart people who are commercializing the back end of the EV life cycle. There is a reason the richest man on earth owns an EV company the P&E ratio in a Tesla has every other automaker drooling with envy. The minimal amount of labor used to manufacture an EV and the fact that the drive train doesn’t have thousands of moving parts skews the P&E massively in flavor of EVs every other automaker has come to the same conclusion. They are in the business of selling new cars at the highest profit ratio possible.
There is only one moving part in a Tesla motor, a couple of bearings too. Tesla is in the business of selling new cars they have more demand than thst can manufacture this is why they haven’t put any efforts into selling battery modules or cells to the used / refurbish market. They need every cell they produce in new vehicles. This leaves the market open for those who can and will fill the void for out of warranty refurbish or remanufactured modules.
https://www.reneos.eu/case/how-battery-repair-centres-extend-the-life-cycle-of-ev-batteries
https://amp.wbur.org/news/2022/01/25/lithium-ion-battery-recycling-electric-vehicles
https://www.spiersnewtechnologies.com/#snt
Not true. Currently, Tesla recycles 100 percent of their batteries, whether from manufacturing or replacement.
Also, Redwood Materials recycles EV batteries for a number of EV manufacturers (founded by a former Tesla co-founder). They just struck a deal with VW to recycle their battery waste.
California is going to follow Australia’s lead. New ICE vehicles will be banned by 2035.
Tell that to people with Isuzus.
This brings into focus another problem.
Electric vehicle manufacturers will not have warehouses full of gigantic, heavy, expensive, replacement battery packs.
Replacement batteries will have to be made to order. When yours dies, you will order one and wait a long time for its delivery and installation (if the battery pack has not been discontinued by the manufacturer).
You can already see future EV’s will have different battery designs, making today’s models dinosaurs.
There is no “universal” EV battery design. It’s not like now going to the auto parts store and buying a simple 12-volt battery to replace your dead one. Today, a man can carry a dead one into the parts store and carry out the new one and install it himself.
EV battery packs can easily weigh several thousand pounds and need hoists to remove and replace them.
Older gasoline and diesel engines can be repaired for long lives but EV batteries have much shorter lives.
This problem is going to be an ugly surprise for a huge number of buyers of EV’s.
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