I’ll be Cary Grant and you’ll get hit by a bus.
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Posted on 08/23/2022 3:24:48 PM PDT by Timber Rattler
Those accords ended with the coup. The government that signed them was overthrown in a violent coup. If you murder a guy, you don’t get to take over his civil contracts, accounts and screw his wife.
Those accords are a dead letter.
Your argument makes no sense other than trying to be argumentative. Alaska was a treaty and purchase of land between two sovereign nations as was the Louisiana Purchase. The Gadsden Purchase bought the southern portions of Arizona and New Mexico from Mexico and transferred the land to the United States. Crimea was transferred by the Soviet government from Russia to Ukraine. That was a mistake but Russia made the dispute worse by invading in 2014. The use of force never ends well. Especially when one side is bent on conquest and intimidation. Get your history straight.
Turkey needs a weakened Russia to begin its quest to rebuild The Ottoman Empire.
Oh, so abused people in regions do not have the right to separate and gain some independence? Maybe you could explain Kosovo where be flattened Serbia for over two months? Or maybe you could explain why we broke off an oil rich chunk of Syria and gave it to rebels and Kurds and we protect them militarily now.
Try again.
Crimea and the Donbass are no different than Kosovo and Northeastern Syria.
Guess it’s a bit@h to get back what you have been handing out. LOL
Whatever it was 30, or 300 years ago, Ukraine is today a soverign nation with defined borders. Which Russia is illegaly crossing right now. All the conspiracy theories in the world don’t change the facts on the ground. Russia is a terrorist state, and if Ukraine were to kick their asses back over that internationally-recognised border, they will have done the world an enormous favor.
Why don’t you stick to writing second-rate fiction for simpletons?
Any time, any place.
Actually, as I have posted many time elsewhere, I think that Crimea is the one place that Russia does have a legitimate interest because of the overwhelming Russian population. What I do object to, thought, is the unilateral occupation by Russia. This should have been a matter of negotiations. On the other hand, Russia has no rightful claims over Donbas, which has a majority Ukrainian population, and even less so over the Kherson and Zaporizhzhya Oblasts.
A just peace would have been the ceding of Crimea to Russia in return for a complete Russian withdrawal from Donbas. But at this point it is hard to how Ukraine would agree to it. It is also clear that Russia does not have the ability to militarily impose its will on Ukraine.
"Abused people" did not rise up in Donbas. The Russians occupied it militarily, first using local surrogates and then with Russian troops. The Russian invasion in 2014 was a result of Moscow's disappointment that it could no longer control the affairs of Ukraine.
Since when?
Hey can we get Ukrainian-occupied Transcarpathia (Hungary) added to this otherwise excellent map?
Since 1991. Try to keep up.
I think that Crimea is historically Russian, and in an honest referendum the inhabitants of Crimea would choose to be part of Russia.
However, Vlad Putin has made such a mess with his brutal invasion of Ukraine that Russia may wind up losing Crimea and everything else. Russia should start worrying about holding on to Siberia. Until 1860 Vladivostok was part of China, and I’m sure the Chinese would like it back.
So you get called out on your gross ignorance, and start getting impotently bellicose. How very Russian of you...
Ooh you are gonna cop it from the pro Ukraine fanatics with the suggestion Crimea is as good as Russian
No Comrade Rhino, they did not. And there was no coup. President Yanukovych abandoned his office and fled his country in February 2014, and was formally removed by a 3/4 majority vote in Parliament, as required by Ukrainian law. He was a coward and deserved to be removed.
Ukraine's President Voted Out, Flees Kiev
At any rate, Russia recognized Ukraine's independence in December 1991, and there's no going back on that....a treaty is a treaty.
I don’t recall reading about it. Like the announcement when Israel was Declared a State.
There are actually people on this thread that believe that the Ukraine will get possession of Crimea again.
Well I guess since you didn’t read about it, it didn’t happen? I didn’t read about you being born, does that mean you don’t exist?
Just a tip, vatnik: I know that English isn’t your first language, and you do a pretty decent job, but referring to it as “the Ukraine” is the tell. It lets everyone know that you’re just a russian troll farm gnome.
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