Posted on 12/25/2022 7:34:11 AM PST by Salohcin
The point being a lot of the knee-jerk admiration of Putin is solely based on hatred of Biden and the Democrats. Not all of it, but a substantial part of it. There was a saying in France before the war, “Better Hitler than Blum.”. Leon Blum was a Jewish socialist politician who was once French Premier. Blum actually did survive the war.
That's crap. We didn't want that war, and it has benefitted nobody except perhaps the owners of some coal mines in Europe.
proxy war was not something that Putin wanted.
Well of course he didn't. He wanted to go barreling into a neighboring country, conquer it, and absorb it into his own without anyone in the rest of the world raising an eyebrow. Why wouldn't he prefer that result? I imagine Germany wasn't a fan of the "proxy war" when the US was supplying critical war materials to the UK and the USSR either.
Every bully would prefer that nobody stands up to them.
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Your post number 61 is dead on accurate.
I submit that this is not Russia against Ukraine, it’s Russia against NATO. It always has been. A proxy war of superpowers, at our expense.
Question: what country are you from?
I try to call “balls and strikes” with Ukraine. I am not a fan of our approach to it, and I still hope somehow there can be a negotiated settlement that forever puts the issue to bed. Yeah, Russia could lose this round, but how do you know they won’t keep trying every 5-10 years with a different leader. This is one area I do think Trump would have made a dramatic difference, in that I would think his focus would be on getting a settlement that works in the long term.
But you and Putin are both reversing cause and effect. Nobody of any consequence was considering breaking Russia apart prior to this war, so that can't possibly be the excuse for the invasion. And if Russia announced tomorrow that it was leaving Ukraine and going home, nobody of any consequence would be pushing for it to be broken apart.
I knew you had exaggerated: You said “tear apart Russia.” The link you provided was for some panel discussion on the DE-COLONIZATION of Russia; in other words, foreign countries that Russia has “colonized” should have the right to break away from that arrangement, just as the eastern European countries of Poland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, the three Baltic countries, etc. jumped at the chance to get away from the Soviet Union. There was and is no threat to Russia itself.
But, do you know who is the most likely to “tear apart” Russia? China.
Russia invaded NATO? When did that happen?
Thanks. Looks like these ideas came about “after” putin invaded and bombed Ukraine. So he has a lot to worry about now LOL
he is losing in Ukraine and may lose more than that.
russia is the largest country in the world. he was foolish to try and expand it, imo
Let’s send more money, and weapons to Ukraine, so Democrats, and Republicans can launder more money, and Zelenskyy and his buddies can sell all those missiles on the black market. There really isn’t any need to monitor all this cash and military paraphernalia to see where it actually goes. We can trust them all. Their word is gold.
Thanks, and as you CLEARLY imply, this bunch is TOTALLY LINKED to governments. Hopefully the Ukraine Cheerleaders will understand that it’s not necessary to make up stuff about Western intentions to rule over everyone, as the West has no problem with publicizing them for all to see.
Tens of THOUSANDS of Americans and NATO/SEATO/ANZAC forces died in various wars directly or indirectly by the Rus.
Paybacks are hell, Putin. Deal with it.
“I knew you had exaggerated: You said “tear apart Russia.” The link you provided was for some panel discussion on the DE-COLONIZATION of Russia”
Feel free to call dismemberment of a country what you wish, but don’t be surprised if they fight back.
...and fight back with some pretty big firecrackers.
By all means audit the aid, but that is a different question than is it good policy to support Ukraine against Russian aggression.
And paybacks lead to more paybacks, and so on, and so on, and so on.......
https://www.globalresearch.ca/rand-corp-how-destroy-russia/5678456
That’s an exactly what Ukraine is doing in face of Russian aggression. Shouldn’t you be on their side then?
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