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The Wagner 'Coup' Was Staged by Putin—and the West Fell for It | Opinion
Newsweek ^ | 6/29/23 AT 5:23 PM EDT | REBEKAH KOFFLER

Posted on 07/01/2023 3:29:36 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: E. Pluribus Unum

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41 posted on 07/01/2023 5:05:06 PM PDT by dennisw (Never attribute to incompetence-stupidity, that which is adequately explained by malice)
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To: BobL

Too funny - they see that Putin is now STRONGER than before the coup, so they now have to claim he staged it
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So they think that being snookered is somehow a high ground? And, I might add there’s likely a nice U.S. taxpayer bribe to the Wagner film flam included in the snookering. Thinking you have the upper hand on the Ukrainian masters of corruption is a fool’s play. Scratch your head a little more until you figure out you’ve been had.


42 posted on 07/01/2023 5:05:42 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: Candor7; marktwain

Why would mercenaries have anything to do with or be needed for Russian nukes?

If Russia has a couple of military bases in Belarus and thousands of regular military forces and is openly moving nukes to Belarus, why not just send the regular personnel assigned to those devices and operations?

How would Wagner fit into the normal operation of the Russian military units trained on and assigned to nuke duty?

Other than doing the usual which would be serving as security, how could Wagner have any possible connection to Russian Army nuclear weapons operations?


43 posted on 07/01/2023 5:12:56 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The West falls for a lot of things.


44 posted on 07/01/2023 5:28:34 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Or Crapgame.


45 posted on 07/01/2023 5:47:27 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: GulliverSwift; Candor7
This person presents zero evidence of anything but then labels her unfounded opinion as “the obvious truth.”

Rebekah Koffler has cred. You're just some anonymous dude on Free Republic.

Candor7 posted her creds here:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4164863/posts?page=28#28

46 posted on 07/01/2023 6:00:36 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Candor7
The Usual Suspects on this thread are not understanding why The Wanger Group in Belarus is such a big deal.

It pulls troops away from the eastern battle zone.

47 posted on 07/01/2023 6:02:35 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

Biden is behind this


48 posted on 07/01/2023 6:04:50 PM PDT by Fuzz (. )
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To: Candor7

“ NOw the Wagner group will be reconstructed in Belarus…”

Seems to be the upshot.


49 posted on 07/01/2023 6:05:08 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: BobL

I can’t see how Putin or Russia benefits from this “protest,” “stunt,” or “coup” that Progozhin did, whether staged or not.

If there was some hidden benefit (for example, bringing some traitorous or corrupted elements out into the open) then we won’t ever really know about it.


50 posted on 07/01/2023 6:09:12 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: kiryandil
The Usual Suspects on this thread are not understanding why The Wanger Group in Belarus is such a big deal.

I understand why Russia may want to open a new front, or feint, near Kiev, but its not like Wagner could remain hidden. US satellites will easily see them massing troops and equipment.

51 posted on 07/01/2023 6:11:12 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Or the FSB had agents inside Wagner that made it fizzle out.


52 posted on 07/01/2023 6:13:53 PM PDT by x
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All

The coup wasn’t staged by Putin.

I wish it was true though. Because if it was, it would make Putin a direct enemy of the Russian people - because of all the Russian blood that was spilled during the coup :

6 Russian helicopters downed (2 of them were ultra high-tech)
1 large Russian army airplane downed
49 pilots, copilots and Russian army personnel killed.
And that’s only what they didn’t succeed to hide...

So if Putin did the coup he should be arrested by the Russian justice and get a life time in prison for the proactive and premeditated killings or Russian citizens.


53 posted on 07/01/2023 6:14:09 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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They don't HAVE to do anything.

Just their presence will make the Piano Stooge and his Banderite Azov buddies soil themselves, and keep back units from the Eastern Front.

Massing troops and equipment would be a plus for a feint.

Of course, I read that the Wangers turned over their heavy equipment to the Russian army.

54 posted on 07/01/2023 6:16:34 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
“Only Milo Minderbinder could make a move like that and profit from it.”

Also the Russians are just to stupid to pull off a stunt like that. Somebodies imagination is in overdrive.

55 posted on 07/01/2023 6:22:42 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: kiryandil
The Usual Suspects on this thread are not understanding why The Wanger Group in Belarus is such a big deal.

It pulls troops away from the eastern battle zone.

That works both ways. How do the Russians benefit from that?

To be a benefit, it has to be a fake movement, somehow having the Ukrainians believe there is more force there, than there really is.

This war is the most open, ever in history. Both sides have access to multiple platforms of drones, aircraft and satellites.

Deception is hard, and necessary.

56 posted on 07/01/2023 6:35:15 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: BobL

The whole war is staged....probably...
The ukes want us bribery money from Joe Bribem...the Russians want to capture us war technology and reverse engineer it...
Wagner hastily leave Ukraine...ukes won’t attack if Wagner is heading to Moscow
The reason why this invasion keeps going on is to milk as much money from u.s. and NATO..
Bribem and blinken are probably double agents....using neoMarxists , blm, and lgbt, and wokesters as their useful idiots
IMHO...IMHO


57 posted on 07/01/2023 6:36:05 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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Fair enough, Mr. Clemens. Thanks.


58 posted on 07/01/2023 6:58:12 PM PDT by LucienCA13 (sorry if you are microaggrieved)
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To: USA-FRANCE

All we need to know is President Joe Biden said he had nothing to do with the ‘coup’ to overthrow Russian President Putin. Joe Biden often lies. He cannot be trusted to tell the truth.


59 posted on 07/01/2023 7:02:20 PM PDT by Yolanda (Jussie Smollett hoa)
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To: Yolanda

Often?


60 posted on 07/01/2023 7:05:52 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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