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When will Ford learn?

They plan to make 2 million EVs although they only sold 61,575 last year.

1 posted on 07/28/2023 9:25:24 AM PDT by CFW
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You should have heard my V8 hot rod popping like firecrackers to get groceries this morning lol 😆. Try that with your battery crap


35 posted on 07/28/2023 9:47:16 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male đŸ€Ș)
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This is the sort of argument that makes me think magazines like FrontPage are simply deliberately trying to make conservatives stupid.

For a decade, there were articles talking about how weak sales proved no-one wanted Tesla, because Tesla was losing money. Tesla is now worth eight times Ford and General Motors COMBINED.

Ford is investing in engineering, factory retooling and even rebuilding. There are certainly contexts in which you absolutely have to relate these costs. But to use them to show that new products are unprofitable is not just ignorant; it is not just stupid; it is deliberately deceitful.


42 posted on 07/28/2023 9:53:56 AM PDT by dangus
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“No one except the state wants them.”

Lots of folks want EV. Most of them are young and urban.
The bad part is the young and urban don’t see the need to own a car so they’re not buying EVs.
The young and urban don’t drive, they call uber.
Long distance travel, they fly.


45 posted on 07/28/2023 9:56:35 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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Ford only makes 3 electric cars. The Lightning, the Transit van, and the terribly named Mustang Mach-E. Ford is losing money because they are investing a huge amount in battery and vehicle production factories. From the Q1 Report..

“ Ford Model e to report an BIT loss of around $3 billion, largely reflecting disciplined investment in new products and capacity.”

That’s where these billions are going not from losses selling 61,000 EVs. I don’t see the point to Geenwald’s anti EV harping, but either he doesn’t know better, or is being dishonest.

I own a Ford Lightning, and the owners group forums are full of nothing but love for these amazing trucks. I and my family love ours as we blast down the road on hands free Blue Cruise for 5 cents a mile operating cost. Quiet, comfortable, blazing fast and for my 7 months of ownership so far, 100% defect free.(knock on wood).


51 posted on 07/28/2023 10:07:51 AM PDT by BRK
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I was at my local Toyota Dealership and they had some EV I never heard of on the floor. Nobody wants to buy a 200 mile POS, they can’t sell it. Of course it is really a China Mobile.


52 posted on 07/28/2023 10:08:23 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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I’m in the process of buying a new car. I want some kind of SUV compact hybrid. Every time I go to a lot they try to steer me to an EV and it’s astounding. I I tell them right off the bat I do not want an EV I will not buy an EV and yet they still try.


65 posted on 07/28/2023 10:53:10 AM PDT by Hildy
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I’m in the process of buying a new car. I want some kind of SUV compact hybrid. Every time I go to a lot they try to steer me to an EV and it’s astounding. I I tell them right off the bat I do not want an EV I will not buy an EV and yet they still try.


67 posted on 07/28/2023 10:58:02 AM PDT by Hildy
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Sometime in the future, FORD will have a message for democrats...

and it will be ‘f. o. r. d.)

or eff-off retarded democrats.


69 posted on 07/28/2023 11:08:14 AM PDT by adorno
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RIVIAN IS LOSING BILLIONS RIGHT THERE WITH THEM. Buy Rivian stock. Wall Streets is magically making it go up. Seriously. Analysts are recommending it right and left because they KNOW there will be no consequences.


73 posted on 07/28/2023 11:14:07 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Wow. WHO is getting them to make this stuff?


74 posted on 07/28/2023 11:14:55 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Feds will bail them out with billions of taxpayer dollars.


75 posted on 07/28/2023 11:19:10 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinions)
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This is America, you will get what your government masters tell you to get.


79 posted on 07/28/2023 11:27:12 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (“We should not assume civilization is robust”)
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The Car Wizard has a YT video out now in which he discusses auto technology to avoid. One of them is buying a used EV, because most EVs do not indicate the health of the battery, and you could be stuck with an EV that has only a few years’ worth of life in it, and with a range that’s cut in half or worse.

He also mentioned that a used battery for a Tesla is going for $19.3K.

In order to sell a used EV you have to depend upon maintaining ignorance in the market, and hoping the word doesn’t get out after 2 or 3 generations of EVs are junked (not sure where, because junk yards won’t take them). Assuming most people will figure out their purchasing mistake after owning their first used EV through its short lifecycle, how long can even the new market continue?


82 posted on 07/28/2023 11:34:24 AM PDT by Hazwaste (Socialists are like slinkies. Only good for pushing down stairs.)
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CEOs need to get out of their bubble and look around at the real world. They’re a buncha copy-cats who get caught up in the latest fad.


84 posted on 07/28/2023 11:44:20 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore)
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Auto execs today are a buncha pansies who think the Prius is a sports car. All the crap on the road all look alike.


88 posted on 07/28/2023 11:51:37 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore)
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My best real-world source is the liberal relatives. Every time we get together, I ask why they haven't bought an EV yet. One or two will mention the price, but usually it's "our old car works just fine for now." This is coming from people who used to get new cars every 3 to 5 years; now their vehicles are getting older and not being replaced.

Is it the economy (everybody is worried about their jobs, food prices and investments), or because they are the kind of liberals who expect somebody else to do the heavy lifting? Probably a little of both.

Next time I see these people, I will ask a new question; "Do you know anybody who has an EV?" Just to see what the answer is.

At the same time, history tells us that each change in technology and culture brings a new group of industry leaders. That's why the sailing ship people did not become the leaders in steamships; why the horse and buggy people did not become the new GM's and Fords; why Sears Roebuck did not become Amazon, and so on. Tesla is a start-up without the old tech baggage that Ford, GM, etc. carry with them. If/when EV's actually become the new normal, Ford and GM will be nostalgic memories.

One more factor; we will see California style mandates on EV's actually happen about the same time that the high-speed train in California starts running a regular route with heavy passenger and freight traffic. You might recall that was supposed to be running already, but so far all they have accomplished is shortening the route, pushing out the delivery date, and spending more money. (Twice or 3 times the original budget?)

92 posted on 07/28/2023 12:03:05 PM PDT by Bernard ("No matter where you go, there you are." (Buckaroo Banzai))
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Not to worry, they’ll increase the price of gas vehicles to make up the difference.


99 posted on 07/28/2023 12:51:06 PM PDT by bgill
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I had thought Ford was smarter than the other Auto companies when they didn’t take the Gov’t cash years ago, but I stand corrected.


100 posted on 07/28/2023 1:03:36 PM PDT by Rappini (Hope means coming in second.)
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It’s all part of the plan to destroy the country.


103 posted on 07/28/2023 1:39:24 PM PDT by NeverTyranny
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“Ford plans to make 2 million electric cars every year by 2025. That would be impressive considering that Ford only sold 61,575 of them in 2022. It sold 3,624 electric vehicles in Feb 2023.”
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Those unsold EV cars will be LIKE MONEY IN THE BANK
 OR
 LIKE DUNG IN A HEAP.


104 posted on 07/28/2023 1:43:12 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX’)
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