Posted on 08/15/2023 3:24:15 PM PDT by thegagline
Sometimes my fingers don’t do what I tell them.
This is a line further down in the article that is the supposed gotcha - supposedly proving that what Trump was claiming in the tweets was demonstrably false.
But even if you concede that Trump has no actual hard evidence to back the claims up, and that they are therefore falsehoods, are they then, actually illegal?
I am not a lawyer, but I have not seen any laws against posting lies on Twitter, even if you are the President, either. I see him urging Pence to do something possibly illegal, but not ordering him or anyone to do anything illegal.
I think therefore this is going off into the universe of speech that was unsettling to people, in the way the Alex Jones trial went when he told likely falsehoods on air, about the Sandy Hook parents. Not exactly the same, but similar. Trials are still going on as to whether that was “free speech” or not.
The best thing will be if Trump can provide some concrete proof, and convince the general public and jury he was right about the election. Short of that, his lawyers will need to prove posting falsehoods on the internet isn’t a crime. I doubt it is, but unfortunately, like Alex Jones, he’s going to be tied up like Jones in court trying to prove it.
There's the word.
This is a line...
By themselves they don’t seem that damning and I think the indictment is a stretch. As I understand, however, the tweets in context of the conspiracy charge can be used to establish intent and/or an overt act.
More to the point, as you touch upon, and as old Joe Friday used to say, anything you say can and WILL be used against you by the prosecution.
Charlie Daniels!
[Sometimes my fingers don’t do what I tell them.]
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Why did Democrats change the law making what he was being
urged to be done to be made illegal with the NEW changes?
Wouldn't that mean that what he was urged to do was legal before the new law?
May he RIP.
I used to play in a jug band and The Old Canoe was one of our favorites. One day it got so hot our fiddle exploded.
Dems were not going to keep the fraudulent mail in ballots around, after they were counted, in 2020. I hope states do a better job in 2024.
It was not clearly legal. There is no case law, and legal experts are mixed in whether it would have been legal or not. The Senate would have been the judge of whether it was legal, or not, in that moment, and likely declared it illegal. Pence and his legal team was probably aware of all this. In a situation such as that, the proper course would have been to advance petition the USSC on the possible legality of such a move, before you just give it a whirl with a million angry protestors outside.
My point, that you flew past in your desire to start an argument out in left field, is that simply urging Pence to do it, is not the same as attempting to order Pence to do it, which Trump never did, and in Trump's favor. But since it's not clear in the discrepancy, it may have to be resolved by the courts.
Even though I should know better than even try to have a fair minded debate with you, as you typically fly into nothing but insults in very short order. 4, 3, 2, 1.
Should Adam Schiff be used as evidence in trial for...ahem...speaking provable "falsehoods"
LIVE to the American people countless times?
I would present that in court. If one is a crime then the other is also.
Musical chairs. Round and round you go...
Wrong again. I just saw your strategy...and I got the anticipated rise, as is evidenced.
The moronic Georgia Dems is going on the illusions of crime. I hope Trump’s lawyers shatter their chess board through the looking glass.
So is he going to pull the chair out from under her?
I mean, c’mon man!!
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