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The Victory That Saved Western Civilization-Commemorating the anniversary of the battle of Tours.
Frontpagemagazine ^ | October 10, 2023 | Mark Tapson

Posted on 10/10/2023 6:04:06 AM PDT by SJackson

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1 posted on 10/10/2023 6:04:07 AM PDT by SJackson
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2 posted on 10/10/2023 6:04:30 AM PDT by SJackson (In a war of ideas it is people who get killed.)
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To: SJackson
History is a wonderful thing.

This article identifies just one little part of history.

Look at history in total (as much total as you can consume), and you quickly find that we humans have developed an ever-increasing ability to kill one another.

I'm not taking sides in the article except to say that the Battle of Tours was indeed a turning point in the expansion of the Muslim empire. It took another 700 or so years to stop it in Europe in Spain and in other fronts across Europe.

You would think we have advanced beyond the stone-age level of annihilating one another instead of sitting at a table nd working through our differences.

We have not.

3 posted on 10/10/2023 6:26:21 AM PDT by icclearly (Q)
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To: SJackson

Also Battle of Lepanto, oTOBER 7 1571, where Christian Holy League under Juan of Austria , Phillip II of Spain illegitimate brother defeated Ottoman forces sinking 50 galleys and capturing 137 more Killing 25000 Ottoman and liberating 12500 Christian galley slaves


4 posted on 10/10/2023 6:44:44 AM PDT by njslim
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5 posted on 10/10/2023 6:48:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: SJackson
...Hanson writes that the Roman legions had crumbled “because of the dearth of free citizens who were willing to fight for their own freedom and the values of their civilization.”

Sounds familiar..............................

6 posted on 10/10/2023 6:52:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: njslim

Islam does not do industrialization well.

They were weak until oil discoveries enabled them to buy what they needed.


7 posted on 10/10/2023 6:53:01 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: SJackson

And all of this occurred before the first Crusade.

Remember that when leftists try to make Europeans look bad for “oppressing innocents” and use crusades as an excuse for Islamic Jihad.

It was the other way around. The Crusades were a reaction to the expanding Caliphate.


8 posted on 10/10/2023 7:10:34 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: icclearly
GO to gutenberg.org and look in the religion section for three translations of the Holy Koran. I use "Koran" as that is what their search looks for.

When you read a true translation of the Holy Quran, you will realize it is impossible to "work through our differences".

There are three options.

They kill all of us.

We kill all of them and destroy every copy of the Holy Quran in the world.

They live in their part of the world and we in ours, with us maintaining a military able to defeat them when they attack.

9 posted on 10/10/2023 7:12:26 AM PDT by Mogger
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To: SJackson; texas booster

Victor Davis HAnson Ping!..


10 posted on 10/10/2023 7:19:04 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Mogger
They live in their part of the world and we in ours, with us maintaining a military able to defeat them when they attack.

Okay. Believe what you wish.

I sorta like your last option, though (from your comment).

It is not our job to police the world. Let's stay in our lane, have a real military, not a woke version of one, and let's work on solving our own very real problems ($33 trillion in debt, millions of illegal immigrants, an honest government, and no two-tier justice system).

And, oh, by the way, stop bullying and pushing the rest of the world to align against us.

Yes. As some of our great leaders believed and often said:

Peace through strength.

Remember?

We ain't nowhere close. Are we?

11 posted on 10/10/2023 7:38:21 AM PDT by icclearly (Q)
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Then over 1,000 years later France made the mistake of colonizing areas of then Muslim Northern Africa (particularly Alegeria) and then permitted massive immigration into France of local citizens of those colonies, whose descendents (and those added over the years sicne) in France today have altered France domestically, in negative ways it may never recover from.

There is no reconciling the mentality of the Arabs from the Quran, for it justifies all the atrocities they do.


12 posted on 10/10/2023 7:39:42 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: njslim

The battle of Lepanto was fought on October 7, 1571, according to the Julian calendar then in use—Pope Gregory XIII’s calendar reform was just a few years later (1582). Under the Gregorian calendar we still use, the battle’s date would be October 17.


13 posted on 10/10/2023 8:23:00 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: SJackson

It could also be argued that Thermopylae was the beginning of Western Civilization as a historical continuum. Molon Labe still used today to indicate that there is something bigger than self that was discovered by the Greeks. Namely, the right of people to govern themselves and defend that right absolutely. And…. Here we are again.


14 posted on 10/10/2023 8:24:15 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: icclearly

Trump’s theory is the correct one. Do nothing until you have to do something. Then do it fast and dirty so it never has to be done again.


15 posted on 10/10/2023 8:26:47 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: Red Badger

Our pastor did a 3-hour seminar on CRT and how terrible it is. It has it’s roots in Germany (1920”s??), communist in style, and was designed to break down the family and community bonds that men would fight for.


16 posted on 10/10/2023 2:00:38 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: SJackson

Good bless the West, death to barbaric terrorists.


17 posted on 10/10/2023 3:13:31 PM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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Close the border, save our country. Send the Squad to Palestine.


18 posted on 10/10/2023 3:14:27 PM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: SJackson

Why didn’t those racist whites welcome the ‘refugees’ with open arms into their lands? Why didn’t they recognize the modern religion of “diversity” and how diversity is our strength? racist!

Our ancestors woudl kick our a55es for allowing everything they lived and died for to be wiped out by handing over our nations and our grandchildrens’ birthright to foreign invaders. Sickening what “diversity” “open borders” bleeding heart “multi-cultural” worshippers have done to us.

It’s called genocide folks.


19 posted on 10/10/2023 8:40:46 PM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

Or you could opt for the Athenian charge at Marathon, ten years before Thermopylae.


20 posted on 10/11/2023 5:56:14 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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