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Doom Loop? Nearly 36% of San Francisco's Office Space is Currently Vacant
Hotair ^ | 12/19/2023 | John Sexton

Posted on 12/19/2023 9:40:13 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 12/19/2023 9:40:13 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Send most of the homeless to those dark, empty castles.
Of course, then the Mayor would need to budget an on call clean up crew, armed security force and indoor health clinic or should I say, de-tox clinic.


2 posted on 12/19/2023 9:53:32 PM PST by lee martell
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To: SeekAndFind
The answer to that may all come down to BART trains.

Wistling past the graveyard. What is really required is for the city to clean itself up. That would require tough policing, something I can't see happening until things get a lot worse.

3 posted on 12/19/2023 10:34:31 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: lee martell

Three things I get out of this trend: (1) A lot of the talk is over commercial real estate (office buildings). I would imagine in 2024...several more hotels will shutdown, with tourism lessening every quarter (even international tourism will lessen). (2) Going into early 2025, after they let go of 10-percent of city staff in 2024...there’s probably a rough 20-percent additional cut to come. (3) Finally, you would have mandate people go to a enclosed/fenced facility and ration out real drugs (freely) to get them off the streets of the city (Democratic logic) to bring real change or fix this mess.


4 posted on 12/19/2023 10:42:05 PM PST by pepsionice
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That would require tough policing, something I can't see happening until things get a lot worse.

The Democrats are not going to tolerate tough policing right now. Remember the cops are racist.

5 posted on 12/19/2023 11:01:02 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: SeekAndFind

Approx. 30 years ago I worked in downtown S.F., and frankly the seeds of the “doom loop” go back a lot further than many realize. In a lot of ways, this has been a long-term decline that was largely “papered over” by a tech/startup boom that have supplied a steady stream of boom/bust office tenants for the past 25 years.

Allow me to explain... ~30 years ago, downtown S.F. was the headquarters of a half-dozen or so really big, traditional companies that each employed thousands to tens of thousands of workers: Chevron (aka Standard Oil), Wells Fargo, Bank of America, Pacific Telephone, Pacific Gas & Electric, Charles Schwab. Bechtel. Through various mergers and moves, every single one of those companies’ headquarters eventually moved out of S.F., with maybe 80-90% of their erstwhile workforce gone. Yes, the Twitters and Ubers and Airbnbs came in and hundreds of lesser imitators rolled in, but it wasn’t the same thing. The tech companies and their workers come and go. It’s a totally different thing than the Chevrons and Wells Fargos that had the same boatloads of people working there for 20 or 30 years. We can talk about the crime and the drugs and all that stuff has hurt, but the fact is that SF cast its lot with a startup-tech industry that has proven unreliable over the long term.


6 posted on 12/19/2023 11:19:39 PM PST by irishjuggler (I)
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To: SeekAndFind

The commercial death spiral will continue. They have nothing to inspire revitalization. Investment opportunities? Ha! Only cheap rubble for concrete crush as roadfill.
And who wants to haul crush hundreds of miles to an active economy?😍


7 posted on 12/19/2023 11:37:05 PM PST by himno hero (had'nff )
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PR firms 1st mistake, use The NY Times to “sell” SF to people who could possible help. Liberals are the problem, not the solution….. Of course I don’t know any conservatives who would move there…..


8 posted on 12/20/2023 1:01:11 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: SeekAndFind

“”At some point, someone will find it cheap enough to sign a lease for a startup””

The only ‘startup’ that has any chance of succeeding would be Pooper Scoopers, Inc. No one else wants to ‘invest’ any $$$ in that cesspool.


9 posted on 12/20/2023 1:54:16 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: SeekAndFind

Detroit was once a great city. Now the forest is slowly returning.


10 posted on 12/20/2023 2:19:08 AM PST by Nateman (If the Pedo Profit Mad Moe (pig pee upon him!) was not the Antichrist then he comes in second.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Doomed!


11 posted on 12/20/2023 2:30:38 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: pepsionice

Civilized chaos, such as at our southern borders right now.


12 posted on 12/20/2023 2:38:26 AM PST by lee martell
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What shocks me is that 64% of the office space remains filled!

Unless much of this is contracts leases that have not yet run out.


13 posted on 12/20/2023 3:57:38 AM PST by Chickensoup
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Your observation is true for dozens of cities across the USA. Our politicians and business leaders sold out the country.


14 posted on 12/20/2023 4:01:21 AM PST by Chickensoup
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I’m surprised Robin Hood Biden and his merry band of fairies haven’t forked over a few billion yet. He still has a year, so it is probably coming. The demented one forked over 3 billion last month for the train to nowhere boondoggle and another 3 billion for a train from So Cal to Vegas. No doubt Newsome and the SF mayor have their hands out on behalf of BART


15 posted on 12/20/2023 4:27:48 AM PST by DAC21
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San Francisco’s actual office vacancy rate is much higher than 36%.

When the real estate industry measures occupancy and vacancy rates, commercial space is considered “occupied” as long as there is a lease in place — even if nobody is using it and the lights haven’t been turned on in months. SF’s office occupancy rate will continue to decline as more and more leases on these unused offices expire.

16 posted on 12/20/2023 4:41:54 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: lee martell

And some stores to loot.


17 posted on 12/20/2023 4:42:30 AM PST by dynachrome (War does not determine who is right, but who is left.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Somebody in that leftist city government will soon get the bright idea to convert all that office space to homeless living quarters. It’ll be great. Then they could have all the sh!tters indoors in the hallways. It couldn’t happen to a more deserving city.


18 posted on 12/20/2023 4:45:59 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

Move the UN there.


19 posted on 12/20/2023 4:46:46 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz
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To: jimtorr

“That would require tough policing”

That train has left the station (so to speak).

Lived in San Francisco from 1994-2016, beautiful, fun town, but no longer.


20 posted on 12/20/2023 5:46:26 AM PST by Jolla
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