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$750 a month was given to homeless people in California. What they spent it on is more evidence that universal basic income works.
Business Insider via MSN ^ | Dec 19, 2023 | Natalie Musumeci

Posted on 12/20/2023 8:37:52 AM PST by fwdude

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To: fwdude

The money was given, “no questions asked,” but we somehow know how they spent the money.
Majorly bogus “study.”

That is the first thing that went through my mind. The second was maybe they did a survey after, and the people all told them what they wanted to hear. I mean, whose going to say that they blew it on drugs? Even more likely, they spent the universal income on appropriate stuff, and used the rest of their resources on drugs.

I wish they would try another approach. Instead of Universal income, they try UNIVERSAL JOBS with Universal income. You work, you get housing, medical care, and food as a minimum for 40 hours a week. Oh wait......you say if they did that they would already have that.....I guess it’s pointless then.


41 posted on 12/20/2023 9:53:29 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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To: dfwgator

“who gets to decide what one’s abilities and needs are?”

You need to read the collected works of Karl Marx.

“The vanguard of the revolution” gets to decide.

Who gets to decide who they are?

They do!


42 posted on 12/20/2023 9:56:28 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Obey or get canceled.)
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To: fwdude
Oh,yes...I used the money to help put my daughter through MIT.
43 posted on 12/20/2023 9:57:35 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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To: fwdude

Welfare can only provide so much. These people need jobs.


44 posted on 12/20/2023 10:00:31 AM PST by Jonny7797
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To: fwdude

Money is fungible, isn’t it.

Nuff said.


45 posted on 12/20/2023 10:01:09 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: dfwgator

“ Of course, who gets to decide what one’s abilities and needs are?”

Rich entitled politicians .
It’s for the common good of course.
They need those mansions in The Hampton to stay refreshed do they can help more common people .


46 posted on 12/20/2023 10:01:47 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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To: fwdude

This is the biggest bunch of BS ever printed!!! GIVE ME A DAMN BREAK!!!


47 posted on 12/20/2023 10:02:41 AM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: fwdude

They’re “homeless” people. Here in TN, our news critters now say, “the un-housed”. 😏


48 posted on 12/20/2023 10:03:41 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once.")
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To: fwdude

That’s not income, it’s giving away money for nothing.


49 posted on 12/20/2023 10:21:47 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: fwdude
The elites just want to keep us poor, not owning anything, and being dependent on the largesse of an oppressive government.
50 posted on 12/20/2023 10:24:20 AM PST by SamAdams76 (6,508,933 Truth | 87,456,907 Twitter)
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To: mewzilla
Money is fungible, isn’t it.

Throw that word at a leftist and they'll give you a blank stare.

Economic illiterates all.

51 posted on 12/20/2023 10:24:32 AM PST by fwdude (.)
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To: Paul46360

This “study” is of dubious use—”The participants self-reported how they spent the money.” There was no tracking of EBT type transactions. The conclusions were based on those self-reports, likely inaccurate and not easily verifiable data.

Regarding the cigarettes, most of the 2% of the $750 was spent on cigs. That’s $15. Sounds low, to me, that is, likely way under-reported, but it might be they spent their other money from other sources first and then spent the “basic income” for cigs, etc.


52 posted on 12/20/2023 10:42:40 AM PST by Notthemomma ( )
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How many local stores, do you know of, which have been charged and convicted of buying welfare cards?!?

I can name twenty such places, in six different cities, in the State of Texas in the last 12 months!! And those are just the ones off the top of my head (these are the ones I have seen news stories covering welfare fraud)!!

This study is your typical “feel good” study...the foregone conclusions were going to line up perfectly with the intended results! This is them NOT including data, to make their data look “accurate”!


53 posted on 12/20/2023 10:43:44 AM PST by ExTxMarine (Finish the Wall and Deport them All!)
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To: fwdude
That’s also why the PrEP studies on homos is almost completely invalid.

EXACTLY!! I know of people who are on transplant/healthcare lists who swear at every appointment they no longer drink, smoke, or have multiple partners...and most of them were drunk, had six new partners in the last week, and were smoking on their way to their latest interview/Dr. Appointment!!

What you are saying is for me to get "this" I need to answer like "that"...okay "that" is my answer...every dang time!!
54 posted on 12/20/2023 10:50:18 AM PST by ExTxMarine (Finish the Wall and Deport them All!)
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How many local stores, do you know of, which have been charged and convicted of buying welfare cards?!?

Indeed. We are talking about a population which has elevated grifting to a high art. If they would devote the time engaged in the talent of gaming the system to a legitimate endeavor, they would probably be quite successful.

55 posted on 12/20/2023 10:52:56 AM PST by fwdude (.)
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The only way to track spending would be with some sort of EBT card. So the government knows what was bought, but that’s it. Welfare types buy normal everyday things with their EBT card and then sell it for a fraction of the cost. The cash is then used to feed their drug habit. To be fair, these welfare types could also be using the EBT card to buy actual necessities while using their other sources of income to buy their drugs, alcohol and cigarettes. $750 doesn’t go very far at the grocery store when you have a bunch of mouths to feed. These people are experts at gaming the system and the people running the program are either idealistic or they know the truth and don’t care.


56 posted on 12/20/2023 11:02:55 AM PST by AlaskaErik (There are three kinds of rats: Rats, Damned Rats, and DemocRats.)
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These people are experts at gaming the system and the people running the program are either idealistic or they know the truth and don’t care.

Let's just say they are agenda driven.

57 posted on 12/20/2023 11:05:19 AM PST by fwdude (.)
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To: cotton1706

If I understand, cards like those, including food stamps, are regularly sold for their cash value or less considering it’s, “free money” the recipient didn’t work for. SOMEONE spent them on necessities. It may not have been the original recipient.


58 posted on 12/20/2023 11:10:56 AM PST by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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To: fwdude
homeless... were given $750 per month for a year — no questions asked.

From where did this money originate, a freewill offering by a generous donor?

Taxpayers have income removed from their incomes -- no questions tolerated.

I look at the bright side. Those who like to hand out other people's money to the homeless, especially like candy -- no questions asked -- can expect to end up homeless in hell -- no questions tolerated.

59 posted on 12/20/2023 11:14:23 AM PST by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️, aka every man)
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To: fwdude

Wait, what kinda housing were these people able to afford for $750 a month in EITHER LA or SanFran?


60 posted on 12/20/2023 11:14:27 AM PST by FrankRizzo890
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