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Preview of Supreme Court bump stock case [Oral argument on Wed 2/28/24]
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| 2/27/24
| DAVID KOPEL
Posted on 02/27/2024 9:57:58 PM PST by CFW
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To: Ransomed
Chemical? Not mechanical?
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posted on
02/28/2024 8:28:44 AM PST
by
TornadoAlley3
( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
To: publiusF27
Thanks.
People seem moved more by what President Trump says in regards to the 2nd Amendment that what he does.
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posted on
02/28/2024 8:28:55 AM PST
by
Fury
To: TornadoAlley3
A butterfly flaps its wings, causing a chemical reaction which triggers 800 bullets to fire in a second...
Freegards
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posted on
02/28/2024 8:30:40 AM PST
by
Ransomed
To: Ransomed
Gargill’s attorney needs to put emphasis on the fact that this should be an issue for Congress and not a governmental agency.
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posted on
02/28/2024 8:36:22 AM PST
by
CFW
(I will not comply!)
To: Fury
Yes, and I don't understand why people are moved by what Trump says.
And I’m going to write that out. Because we can do that with an executive order. I’m going to write the bump stock; essen- tially, write it out. So you won’t have to worry about bump stock. Shortly, that will be gone. We can focus on other things. Frankly, I don’t even know if it would be good in this bill. It’s nicer to have a separate piece of paper where it’s gone. And we’ll have that done pretty quickly. They’re working on it right now, the lawyers.
and
And don’t worry about bump stock, we’re getting rid of it, where it’ll be out. I mean, you don’t have to complicate the bill by adding another two paragraphs. We’re getting rid of it. I’ll do that myself be- cause I’m able to. Fortunately, we’re able to do that without going through Con- gress.
Authoritarian asshole. You can take the gun grabber out of New York but you can't take the grabbiness out of the grabber.
To: CFW
Gorsuch brings up the fact that a half million people depended upon previous interpretations that the bump stock was NOT a machine gun and the change in the rule turns them into a federal felon.
And businesses like RW Arms had a million bucks worth of inventory, relying on those previous 15 ATF determinations that they were making legal products.
Then Trump changed his mind about what the law said and those businesses had a very expensive disposal problem on their hands.
Fifth amendment? Just compensation? What do those things mean?
To: 1of10
It is about the power of the regulatory state. And that power has recently come from what Justice Kennedy once called "reflexive deference" to federal agencies.
Kagan is a big fan of deference to federal agency decisions, saying this in the
oral arguments about Chevron deference: ... what Chevron says is now there are two possible decision-makers, there's the agency and there's the court, and what we think is that Congress would have preferred the agency to resolve this question when congressional direction has -- cannot be found because of the agency's expertise, because of the agency's experience, because the agency understands how this question fits within the statutory scheme. ... Of course, she turned out to be talking about deference ONLY to their most recent decision, not the previous 15 times they said that bump stocka were not machine guns. Those were just mistakes. Oops. By the way, anyone who relied on those mistakes has been a felon this whole time.
To: publiusF27
By the way, anyone who relied on those mistakes has been a felon this whole time. This ^
I have seen no one, media or otherwise, question President Trump about the bump stock ban. No "any regrets?", no "Would you direct ATF to review and rescind their classification of a bump stock as essentially a machine gun"? Nothing.
President Trump is right on several issues. He's wrong on bump stocks, and just stubborn enough to not admit he used administrative power - deep state power - to ban them.
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posted on
02/29/2024 4:49:22 AM PST
by
Fury
To: Fury
One would think that the eager embrace of Trump's power grab by Biden, Kagan, Sotomayor, and Jackson would give people reason to doubt that it's a good idea.
OK, maybe two would dare think that, you and me. I wish we had company.
To: publiusF27
Yes, crickets. The bump stock threads are usually quiet.
I’ll predict 5-4 the ban is thrown out.
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03/03/2024 2:28:49 AM PST
by
Fury
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