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New York Volleyball Coach Commits Suicide by Train After Rape Allegations
Breitbart ^ | March 25, 2024 | Olivia Rondeau

Posted on 03/26/2024 7:28:25 AM PDT by Reno89519

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To: Reno89519

My first thought is that the allegations must have been true.

I couldn’t see that kind of drastic action if they weren’t.


41 posted on 03/26/2024 8:25:47 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom
Have you ever considered the extent to which a FALSE accusation of rape can ruin a man's life?

If not, please discuss the matter with the Duke University Lacrosse team.

42 posted on 03/26/2024 8:28:19 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain
Three female teachers busted for molesting boys. The difference in comments will, no doubt, be interesting predictable.
43 posted on 03/26/2024 8:29:37 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: stremba
Usually suicide invalidates life insurance policies anyway,

Yes, for the first two years of the policy.

44 posted on 03/26/2024 8:29:42 AM PDT by Captain Walker ("It is infinitely better to have a few good Men, than many indifferent ones." - George Washington)
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To: bgill

Heard of a few that ended in a similar situation.

I avoid people in general unless I know or have to deal with.

Too many loonies and wackos out there.

At time I think I should have a body camera.


45 posted on 03/26/2024 8:29:47 AM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure..)
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To: NorthMountain

I know that.


46 posted on 03/26/2024 8:30:24 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom

Yeah, that too ...


47 posted on 03/26/2024 8:31:08 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: RWGinger

LOL, yeah, he raped her in his car on Feb 7th, and then on March 7th, she got in the car with him again. And his family is very concerned for the girl.

More than meets the eye here.


48 posted on 03/26/2024 8:32:04 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: EEGator

You don’t have friends, do you?

Of course not, why else would anyone be here? 🤭


49 posted on 03/26/2024 8:33:06 AM PDT by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable. Even more so)
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To: stremba

I think it usually exclude suicide for the first year or two.
The thinking that nobody plans their suicide years in advance.


50 posted on 03/26/2024 8:33:59 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: metmom

That’s why I don’t consider the suicide dispositive, one way or the other.

“Thou shalt not bear false witness against they neighbor” is one of the Big Ten for a reason. False accusation can be deadly.

If the dude was guilty, he’s off to meet his Maker and his Maker’s judgment.

If the dude was innocent ... the girl bears considerable guilt for his death.


51 posted on 03/26/2024 8:34:59 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: EEGator
"Not currently employed…”.

Death usually results in mandatory early retiement, if I'm not mistaken...

52 posted on 03/26/2024 8:36:09 AM PDT by GaltAdonis
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To: Reno89519

OK, so he raped her and then she went out with him again and did it a second time?

What did he do? Cast a spell on her so powerful she couldn’t keep her shorts on?

Geez, we need some balance on this stuff.


53 posted on 03/26/2024 8:37:22 AM PDT by anton
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To: drSteve78

Lol, true.


54 posted on 03/26/2024 8:39:56 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: DesertRhino

Statutory, even in a consensual relationship.


55 posted on 03/26/2024 8:41:08 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left )
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It’s a mystery. They say he might have been one of those “womanizers”. It’s almost like a form of hypnosis, the poor waifs are utterly helpless. They start undressing like they was a zombie or something.

It’s the only explanation. No healthy sane 22 year old male and 15 year old female would normally be attracted to each other.

Now, I’m gonna go listen to some Elvis Presley and Jerry Lee Lewis albums.


56 posted on 03/26/2024 8:43:58 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: Reno89519

I do not know if the man is innocent or guilty.

I do know we have become a society over invested in guilt by allegations alone.


57 posted on 03/26/2024 8:47:27 AM PDT by Wuli (ena)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Corporate HR PR speak. Probably AI generated.


58 posted on 03/26/2024 9:00:58 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: bgill

I would like to know way more about this case before I say anything.

If this was a forceable rape, then no problem with him ending it.

If he was unjustly accused, then it’s a whole other story...

If it was statutory rape, and these two were having some sort of fling, I am not excusing him, but I am sure not putting him in the same category as forceable rape either. No, it doesn’t mean it isn’t wrong, but it’s a different beast.

The article says he was charged with 3rd degree rape, which in NY law would be what the charge would be if it was statutory rape. And based on reading the law, unless this girl had some mental deficiencies, it certainly looks like it was statutory rape, not forcible rape.

So, while it was wrong for a 22 year old to have sex with 15 year old, it sure doesn’t appear that this was a violent or forceable act. Yes it was wrong, but won’t be celebrating the fact he killed himself over it.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/130.25

“A person is guilty of rape in the third degree when:

1. He or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person who is incapable of consent by reason of some factor other than being less than seventeen years old;

2. Being twenty-one years old or more, he or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person less than seventeen years old; or

3. He or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person without such person’s consent where such lack of consent is by reason of some factor other than incapacity to consent.”


59 posted on 03/26/2024 9:01:13 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Wuli

See Post 59.

It is almost certain based on the charges he was arraigned on that this was a statutory rape, and that the girl was not forced or physically harmed.

So, 22 year old and 15 year old have almost certainly some sort of consensual sex twice. Yes, I know NY law says 15 year old can’t consent to sex, at least not with a person 21 or older until they are 17, but it does not appear he forced himself on her based on the charges. Yes, it was wrong, yes, he should have not done it... Yes, he should face the legal ramifications for his actions, but I can tell you that many a 22 year old would fail that test if they were given it, and if you believe otherwise, as a man, you are a liar.

No, I am NOT excusing his actions, nor am I condoning them in any way, but I cannot put this guy in the same bucket as men who force themselves on women, or that groom and abuse young children.


60 posted on 03/26/2024 9:11:40 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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