Posted on 05/03/2024 9:50:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
I know a lot of very unhappy women who follow the gospel. There’s problems living on either side of the fence.
Whatever we’re going through, it won’t last long.
Passed on? To whom?! Their cats?!
The future belongs to those who show up for it.
Regards,
This article about Venker...makes me very much want to vent. I am a fantastic man. Educated, brilliant, devoted to Jesus Christ, engineer, scientist, patents, publications, just sold a home.... I put on a decent pressed shirt and dress pants and to the local sort-of-conservative Presbyterian Church. Do you know what happens with single women during coffee chit chat there? They ignore me. I try to strike up conversation. They treat me like either a piece of furniture or a 3 week old dead fish. I am not skinny, but not fat. I am slightly better than average looks. Do they care? No. Unless you stand in front of them, stick your hand out, and make it impossible for them to avoid, they avoid. Why? Because they are all going to marry/talk-to only: perfect body, perfect face, perfect money, perfect car, perfect spirituality that is soooper spiritual but never rocks the boat - on and on. Evangelical Conservative Suburban Karen has a list 93 items long for what she “must” have. I’ve dated many conservative-Christian-women and am now exhausted. They cannot be pleased.
If you talk to the typical one in college, when she is at her most attractive and most fertile for making intelligent babies - they won’t DREAM of getting married. They are going to finish their degree, then their masters, many their phd, then they are going to work for a while, then they are going to look for someone, then IF he’s “compatible” THEN they will THINK about getting married, which they ThINK is going to happen at 30. THEY ARE MORONS. They think ENTIRELY about THEIR OWN IDEALISM and have NO CLUE about the male physiology or interest. They can’t grasp that female bodies produce healthiest babies and healthiest Mom when they are 18 to 24, and because they think its “unfair” that man are most interested in them then - they refuse to grasp that men will be MUCH less interested when they are 37.
I think the chief reason for the collapse of population in the USA (outside of illegal immigrants) is: conservative Christian evangelical women who won’t marry, because every man they encounter is so far beneath them, they can’t consider him.
The major problem is: female Christian evangelical college educated think that THEY are HIGH STATUS because of their college degree and their sooooper spiritual Christian devotion. AS SUCH, they regard all men at “their level” to be unattractive, because such men are not higher-status, and as such the females dismiss them. Then these women go get a masters degree to “keep looking”. But then they are an even higher-status female in their own eyes and can’t “marry down”. They “just aren’t attracted”.
Over and over, my entire life, the pagan women have been attracted to me. And when I go to chuch, I meet an ice castle of ice princesses who are FAR too superior and FAR too high-status to even-think of going out with me. Again and again I have turned down the pagan women, and tried to do what God wants, which is to corrall the undatedable and unmarriagable Christian female. But I am worn out. I think
this week I”m just going to bring some cute unbelieving female to church to make all the sooooperior ice-princesses angry.
So there! You did it! Blew my gasket!
I will also point out that almost every country outside
the USA, if they stick to their nation’s conservative values, are FAR better than the American single women.
But then, they all want to become Americanized, and they
try to behave like suburban Karen. Today I had a long
conversation with a Chinese girl who is not a Christian,
and it was the best thing that happened to me in months.
Gotta try to get her to church on Sunday so all the Karens
can be miffed.
1. The laws have to change....shake-down hypergamy, men lose it all laws.
2. The Proverbs 31 real woman vs. the boss girls and unrepentant sold out John Chapter 4 women.
3. As prophesied, “Remember Lot’s wife. “As in the Days of Lot”.
4. Know of, vs. “they knew not” Matt. 24. That’s the Hope.
4.: “Paroikos” Grk. Pilgrims, temporary residents. We’re looking up. We’re shining the Light.
I. Peter 2:11
Careful there. CCCP has planted honey pots. If I were a young man (I’m not; I’m a senior woman who believes the 19th should be repealed; today’s college educated know less than I knew in 3rd grade) I’d convert to Mennonite.
Just also make sure to ignore everything a closeted homosexual in a collar and cassock tells them as well.
Your point two, if I am not mistaken, accurately parses out not so much three categories as three overlapping circles in a ven diagram—
Proverbs 31 incorporates the ideal, the boss woman shares a good deal of the Proverbs 31 traits, particularly those valued by the economic/educational side of society, and the John 4 woman, who is much easier to co-exist with than the boss woman, but won’t challenge one to grow the way the Proverbs 31 woman will, and may eventually move on.
Unfortunately, Proverbs 31 women are scarce, as FarRockaway2 points out. Given that we are pretty well all fallen, even those that are mostly Proverbs 31 have flaws, and those with fairly few flaws are going to go like hotcakes, for the most part.
That said, I teach at a Catholic College which traditionally has a male/female imbalance, further exacerbated by over 10% of the men opting to pursue seminary for at least a time, and there are some Proverbs 31 women I am aware of—but I think that I know a very outsized number of them, as our College cultivates the Proverbs 31, while most (even Catholic) destroy them.
The Wife of Noble Character
10 A wife of noble character who can find?
She is worth far more than rubies.
11 Her husband has full confidence in her
and lacks nothing of value.
12 She brings him good, not harm,
all the days of her life.
13 She selects wool and flax
and works with eager hands.
14 She is like the merchant ships,
bringing her food from afar.
15 She gets up while it is still night;
she provides food for her family
and portions for her female servants.
16 She considers a field and buys it;
out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.
17 She sets about her work vigorously;
her arms are strong for her tasks.
18 She sees that her trading is profitable,
and her lamp does not go out at night.
19 In her hand she holds the distaff
and grasps the spindle with her fingers.
20 She opens her arms to the poor
and extends her hands to the needy.
21 When it snows, she has no fear for her household;
for all of them are clothed in scarlet.
22 She makes coverings for her bed;
she is clothed in fine linen and purple.
23 Her husband is respected at the city gate,
where he takes his seat among the elders of the land.
24 She makes linen garments and sells them,
and supplies the merchants with sashes.
25 She is clothed with strength and dignity;
she can laugh at the days to come.
26 She speaks with wisdom,
and faithful instruction is on her tongue.
27 She watches over the affairs of her household
and does not eat the bread of idleness.
28 Her children arise and call her blessed;
her husband also, and he praises her:
29 “Many women do noble things,
but you surpass them all.”
30 Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting;
but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised.
31 Honor her for all that her hands have done,
and let her works bring her praise at the city gate.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs%2031&version=NIV
“What does it mean to swim against the cultural current? Suzanne lays that out in her chapter titles: Live an examined life, prioritize marriage and family over a career, unleash your feminine power, date with purpose, don’t not have babies or not stay home with them just because you’re in debt, “
If you need to be told this you’ve already screwed the pooch. You have to KNOW all of this when you’re 19. Our culture hasn’t taught this to girls since the early sixties.
“They cannot be pleased.”
Democrat
*2a. Actually, the unrepentant John 4 woman, is nearly impossible to have a long term pair bonding with.
*2b. The repentant, receptive John 4 woman there is more hope for, as the Christ becomes the center focus of her Life, however, there is still #1 above that the man must be fully prepared for in Western women. Trust becomes paramount.
*2c. With the “boss girl”, she may become so overbearing that the man must make concessions, or face #1 above. If he does, he may lose his masculine appeal to her, and once again, still face #1 above.
The Proverbs 31 true woman however, always has his back, always can be counted on to support his goals and aspirations. Her dedication is not for what he has, but who he IS. (vs. Job’s wife “curse God and die”)
You sound like you care too much what these church women think. Forget them. Marry one of the likely girls you’re successful with, have kids, take kids to church, invite mom along.!Who knows, maybe God wants you to make a believer out of one of these pagans.
If you actually study it, happiness is the result of having your needs met (not your preferences, your needs)
“...they are all going to marry/talk-to only: perfect body, perfect face, perfect money, perfect car,...”
The internet is packed with conversations much like your experiences. The men the girls want are called ‘Chads’ (if not black) or ‘Tyrones’ (if black). These men are the ‘666’ or ‘6666’ males ie:
6 - six feet tall (average USA male is 5’9”)
6 - pack abs (average USA man is 10-12 lbs overweight)
6 - figure income (only 8-10% of men make over $100,000)
... and next is a to-be-determined-later requirement
6 - inch johnson (average USA penis length is 5.2 inches)
So the members of that coven are all competing for less than 10% of the male population. Most of them will find a unicorn before their ideal male notices them.
It varies among individual women and men.
“I know a lot of very unhappy women who follow the gospel.”
100% true. Often, “unhappy” = “miserable”.
This makes it sound like it’s all on the women, i.e., if they follow the Gospel their lives will be hunky-dory. The husband also has to be on that path or nothing works.
I see what you meant there.
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