Posted on 05/03/2024 9:50:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Google it - several studies vary between 5 - 5.5 inches. I just picked the mean ...
I second SeekAndFind’s suggestion. Explaining your opinion would advance the discussion.
I think the article is close to spot-on.
She wanted to, as an act of worship.
He also washed his disciples’ feet.
it wasn’t forced ... they are extremely gullible by nature ...
That’s funny. Unfortunately, also true.
I don’t think the author of that article understands the definition of ‘matriarchal’ ... or maybe I don’t ...
Girl-boss has blended with Proverbs31woman...they THINK they are Proverbs31, but they are actually GirlBoss. But because they THINK they are Proverbs31, they think they are entitled to the romance-novel-fantasy which is spiritualized: the Hallmark Channel romance movie is equal-to “God’s Best”.
And the preacher just preached she (proverbs31er) is going to get “God’s Best” if only she is Proverbs31! And she IS! She just-knows-it. Dad tells her she is! Preacher tells her she is! So? She KNOWS she is ENTITLED to “God’s Best”. And “God’s Best” is basically an average of a Bodice-Ripper, Jeremy Camp, wealth, MBA, skinny, drives expensive car, embodies all 95 of Focus on the Family’s Best Husband Traits, on and on. He drives a Lexus NOT a Toyota!
Will they admit any of this? Of course not. When pressed on this they will give all VERY spiritual answers about what a Godly man is. But when one bits them at coffee-after-church, they will ignore him because he has a Toyota, an average amount of fat, and is 3.6 years older than her absolute ideal “God’s Best” man is, that she saw in a dream!
And then they turn to their girlfriend and say “Well there just ISN’T anyone! But I’m holding out for GOD’s BEST anyway, so its fine. I will just enroll to be a board certified orthopedic surgeon in the meantime. Oh did you
see Joey? Yeah, he’s getting a technology degree. I just
don’t have any feelings for him. He’s a nice guy though.”
They are unhappy...but they are undisuadably superior in my experience. That superiority won’t allow them to “feel anything” for a man who’s not “at their level”. And by that they mean at their “spiritual” level. But when you come down to it, it’s not spiritual: its status. Average suburban Christian Karen believes herself super high-status (super spiritual Christian in the church-context), which then does not allow her to “feel anything” for men she deems to be her “spiritual” inferior (which we all know is just her perceived status inferior). Its amazing because the pagan women, who are often “poor in spirit” do not have this particular hangup, and are so willing to date the Christian man whom they think is a gold-mine of good behavior. But Christians, following the BIble, cannot date a pagan. But at some point, you just have had enough of EvangelicallyPerfectKaren.
The Mennonite stream is good in many ways. But the problem is: I am a 2nd ammendment supporter. I’m not a pacifist. I respect them and their positions, so I can’t pretend to be a pacifist.....
Yeah, except that the conservative-Christian-Republican-women are becoming....that.
I can’t. It is not possible for a Christian to marry a non-Christian. I am bound by the Scripture. I have turned down pagan women wanting me for many years. I did this for God and my Christian sisters. All it gains you is suffering and the scorn of your own sisters. Its ridiculous. These posts are an appeal to the preachers and the fathers: you must change what is happening in the brains of the females. Or Christianity will have a population collapse (which we all know is the goal), and Christian men will die deaths of despair.
My point about these women is that they are unhappy because they have priced themselves off the market with self-perceived spiritual-superiority and wrong-perception of the Christian-males around them. When prospective Christian male encounters one of these miserable females, he is treated like the furniture, because he is not “God’s Best”. They are unhappy because they are superior. They are self-superior because they know more Scripture than Dallas Seminary. “Follow the Gospel” is different from “believing on one’s self that one’s self follows the Gospel”. They know every verse of Proverbs31, but when it comes to acting in a deferential way, accepting way, to a man who is NOT “God’s Best”, it never enters the mind. To get what I am referring to - some in this forum have mentioned both Chinese and Mennonite or German Baptist women. I would point out that the Chinese/Mennonite/German Baptist do have this good attitude that suburban-evangelical-christian-Karen does not have. It is a willingness to be receptive and happy and receiving of an actual real world male. But suburban-christian-evangelical-Karen treats that man as furniture - she can’t even bear to make chit-chat with him. If we could send all the American women to German Baptist Chinese Re-education Camp, it would be the only time in history this crunchy-conservative would favor it.
Well this is a more-extreme version of the same problem, and you are right of course.
If the evangelical-suburban-american-christian female knew how many men like me were thinking exactly that (go overseas)
maybe, just maybe, the light bulb would click on over their head? Evangelical Karen is pricing herself off the market.
At 37 years old, she gets angry.
I can think of 3 women who priced themselves off the market like this. All uber-Christians. 2 remain unmarried past the 40th birthday. The 3rd did a panic buy at 42. But he was: good looking, rich, and obeyed her. Nobody was good enough. No APPROACH was deemed good enough. No herculean efforts of courting them were good enough. They believe that they themselves are emotional-victims.
Christian media has filled that in. Evangelical Karen has 20 books on him. And because you are not-it, and don’t embody those 20 books well enough, you aren’t “God’s Best”. If you are 73%, you are clearly not an answer to prayer.
Thank you for your helpful and thoughtful reply. It uncovers a corollary church-problem: this doctrine of ‘preparing’ endlessly, and never being ‘ready’ to actually go do the thing. Churches love to say they are “equipping” people. But they love to repeat how much people “need” “preparing” and ‘equipping’ and ‘education’ and so while doing that they are to “wait on the Lord”. And so you have all these women who are “equipping” themselves, and each day their own-view of their own spiritually-superior-status just rises and rises, because now they are REALLY “equipped”, right? And so the expectation of the “God’s Best” husband just keeps rising as well... after all HE should be “equipping himself” as much as she-has “equipped” herself at BIble study and...and...and...
I went to the local Baptist multi-plex, several times.
Do you know what happens to new-guy at Baptist-multi-plex?
Nothing.
Mobs of people. Theater rock-star ‘worship’ service. Coffee out in the lobby. Not. One. Person. Shakes. My. Hand.
Other than the name-tag-guy at the door, no one, and I mean not one, engages me in conversation. If I force someone to talk to me by standing in their way and sticking my hand out, I get nervous chit-chat for a short time, and then the person leaves - unless that person is over 60 years old.
Both of you, excellent posts. (( applause ))
Please bear in mind, there is a distaff version of what you both just said. Plenty of young women who are devoted to Christ and ready for marriage are out there but somehow the young Christian men don’t see them as “good enough.”
Suburban-christian-karen, instead of washing His feet with her tears, would say this:
“Wow, Jesus, like, Ok. I want you to know that I have gone through the ‘experiencing God’ seminar and got, like, a 95. I have worked really hard in school to get a Vet degree because I love animals! I have been going to internationals-bible-study but, like, none of the guys there are close to being, like, your Best? So, I’m glad you are here, because, I’ve been doing everything, but all these guys around here are like, not spiritual? And I am like super devoted to you and everthing, which you already know, so, like, when will UberChristianChad appear? Pastor Jones said if I wait on you, then I will get Your Best. So, when does that, like, kick in!? What’s that? Wash your feet? With my tears? Em, like, I’m not, like, aginst it, but I think its better we should both just wear a covid-mask? But um, could you give me my answers first, because I have worked, like, super-hard. I mean, after that, it you have hand-sanitizer I could like sanitize your feet first and then like use a sanitary wipe and that.”
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